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Brother Thaddius Markus
1st Federation
#1 - 2012-06-12 14:38:12 UTC
I'm curious. What happens if a capsuleer dies without being in his capsule. As far as I know the computer that scans his brain and sends it to the new clone is attached to the capsule. And it's only in DUST that they finally have it small enough to be in a helmet. And even then capsuleers don't really wear helmets.

Does anyone have an answer for this? Thanks Big smile
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-06-12 14:40:00 UTC
Brother Thaddius Markus wrote:
I'm curious. What happens if a capsuleer dies without being in his capsule. As far as I know the computer that scans his brain and sends it to the new clone is attached to the capsule. And it's only in DUST that they finally have it small enough to be in a helmet. And even then capsuleers don't really wear helmets.

Does anyone have an answer for this? Thanks Big smile


It means CCP is willing to make/unmake lore whenever they want to make a console flop.Roll
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2012-06-12 14:40:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
If you die without a means of transferring your brain patterns to a new clone, then you die.

Even if your clone is activated, it would be a brainless moron without any personality.

But it might still be able to join some alliances.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-06-12 14:41:52 UTC
Brother Thaddius Markus wrote:
I'm curious. What happens if a capsuleer dies without being in his capsule. As far as I know the computer that scans his brain and sends it to the new clone is attached to the capsule. And it's only in DUST that they finally have it small enough to be in a helmet. And even then capsuleers don't really wear helmets.

Does anyone have an answer for this? Thanks Big smile


Yes. You die. For good. It happened in at least one of the CCP short stories, I can't be bothered to look it up.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-06-12 14:44:40 UTC
How would you die though ? While docked the capsuleers have their own area that keeps them away from common folk.(from books at least...)
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#6 - 2012-06-12 14:45:49 UTC
Normally, upon death, the Cylons' consciousnesses are downloaded into new identical bodies on the Cylon homeworld, but for humanoid Cylons located farther and farther away from home - such as those hidden within the human refugee fleet - this is not possible, as the download range of a humanoid Cylon is limited. For this reason, when the Cylons began pursuing the Fleet, they incorporated a Resurrection Ship at the center of their pursuit force, to provide their agents with a fallback position; if they were killed, their consciousnesses could be downloaded to new bodies without concern. Without that ship, a killed Cylon would truly die, as their consciousnesses also would be cut off.

I am a lore master.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#7 - 2012-06-12 14:46:09 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Brother Thaddius Markus wrote:
I'm curious. What happens if a capsuleer dies without being in his capsule. As far as I know the computer that scans his brain and sends it to the new clone is attached to the capsule. And it's only in DUST that they finally have it small enough to be in a helmet. And even then capsuleers don't really wear helmets.

Does anyone have an answer for this? Thanks Big smile


Yes. You die. For good. It happened in at least one of the CCP short stories, I can't be bothered to look it up.


The way most of us RPers handle it is "Soft clones". IE a clone you have had made and stored previously. The downside is that it is only an exact copy up to the point the clone was made.

Its mostly just to get away from people saying "I shot you, now you have to biomass your character"
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2012-06-12 14:49:35 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:


Its mostly just to get away from people saying "I shot you, now you have to biomass your character"


The way to get away from people saying "I shot you, now you have to biomass your character" is to reply with "No you didn't."

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#9 - 2012-06-12 14:50:49 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
How would you die though ? While docked the capsuleers have their own area that keeps them away from common folk.(from books at least...)


You could die in all sorts of ways.

Food poisoning, heart attack, lupus, the list goes on!

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#10 - 2012-06-12 14:59:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
It's at least possible to duplicate people.

The Broker does it in the fiction. Smile

So you duplicate yourself and leave that clone in cold storage. Updating every so often.


(Dust bunnies work in a /totally/ different fashion to Capsuleers, by the fiction. Their brains are constantly synced up with other copies, by means of a quantum entangled implant. Not on the point of death only)

And looking at jump clones, it's possible to at the very least, copy nondestructively. And later update the other nondestructively.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#11 - 2012-06-12 15:03:47 UTC
It's the true reason our doors remain locked.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#12 - 2012-06-12 15:11:25 UTC
If it ever becomes an in game issue CCP will update the lore. At the moment there is a bit of a hole there. In some chronicles, like "Jita 4-4" pod pilots were out of the pod, walking about in the depths of the station and not overly concerned about dying, implying there must be something that saves you. The "soft clone" mentioned above is one idea.

Another is to say we too have an implant that keeps the clone updated, just not as well as the Dust guys have, it tends to run a hour behind. If the game actually has us die out of pod, we would wake up in the med clone less 1000 skill points.

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Jafit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-06-12 15:13:21 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
If you die without a means of transferring your brain patterns to a new clone, then you die.

Even if your clone is activated, it would be a brainless moron without any personality.

But it might still be able to join some alliances.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc
Rengerel en Distel
#14 - 2012-06-12 15:13:53 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
How would you die though ? While docked the capsuleers have their own area that keeps them away from common folk.(from books at least...)


You could die in all sorts of ways.

Food poisoning, heart attack, lupus, the list goes on!


It's never lupus.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#15 - 2012-06-12 15:18:06 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
How would you die though ? While docked the capsuleers have their own area that keeps them away from common folk.(from books at least...)


You could die in all sorts of ways.

Food poisoning, heart attack, lupus, the list goes on!


We'd better get Dr House to figure out which it was.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#16 - 2012-06-12 15:19:45 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
How would you die though ? While docked the capsuleers have their own area that keeps them away from common folk.(from books at least...)


You could die in all sorts of ways.

Food poisoning, heart attack, lupus, the list goes on!


It's never lupus.


My cousin died of lupus!

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
SetrakDark
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-06-12 15:22:53 UTC
Wasn't this the whole point of the trailer released at fanfest?

The whole point of the pod was the transfer technology, though now they have an implant so that dusties (and future WiSers) are now "immortal" with the implant.

I don't even follow Eve lore, and I'm pretty darn sure I'm right...
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#18 - 2012-06-12 15:23:36 UTC
Brother Thaddius Markus wrote:
I'm curious. What happens if a capsuleer dies without being in his capsule. As far as I know the computer that scans his brain and sends it to the new clone is attached to the capsule. And it's only in DUST that they finally have it small enough to be in a helmet. And even then capsuleers don't really wear helmets.

Does anyone have an answer for this? Thanks Big smile



Get a copy of Templar One.


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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2012-06-12 15:38:16 UTC
You mean you don't back your brain up?
Brother Thaddius Markus
1st Federation
#20 - 2012-06-12 16:41:36 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Brother Thaddius Markus wrote:
I'm curious. What happens if a capsuleer dies without being in his capsule. As far as I know the computer that scans his brain and sends it to the new clone is attached to the capsule. And it's only in DUST that they finally have it small enough to be in a helmet. And even then capsuleers don't really wear helmets.

Does anyone have an answer for this? Thanks Big smile



Get a copy of Templar One.




I would love to. Thanks for the answer. I assumed at the beginning that the capsuleer would lose all of his skill points and wake up in a dumb clone. However the 'soft clone' idea makes sense.
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