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serious question for csm dudes/lady isnt the ehnaced pos thing a jesus feature?

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#1 - 2012-06-11 20:06:19 UTC
/with all the coding and artwork that will have to be dedicated to make this happen... is it not a jesus feature?

i thought you guys were going against jesus features but now this is your one main thing that you want to be redone...

dont get me wrong i fully support the enhanced modular pos idea... i just think its hypocritical to claim you are against jesus features when you are proposing one...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-06-11 21:58:34 UTC
No it's a space feature

 Though All Men Do Despise Us
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-06-11 23:29:30 UTC
ban npc forum alts from csm forums
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#4 - 2012-06-12 00:15:02 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
/with all the coding and artwork that will have to be dedicated to make this happen... is it not a jesus feature?

i thought you guys were going against jesus features but now this is your one main thing that you want to be redone...

dont get me wrong i fully support the enhanced modular pos idea... i just think its hypocritical to claim you are against jesus features when you are proposing one...


For me you have to come to an agreement as to what a "Jesus Feature" is. For me its some giant totally new thing that isn't in the current game in some form.

The POS revamp has been discussed and promised in some form for a while now. While it is a major feature improvement it is also much needed evolution of an existing feature. So not a "Jesus Feature".

There are a number of features I hope to see from CCP that might be a lot of work, like ring mining, that are an evolution of existing Eve experiences.

A "Jesus Feature" would be something totally not in Eve at the moment like surface vehicles for first person avatar planetary exploration and colony habitat construction.

Hope that helps,

Issler
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#5 - 2012-06-12 00:31:40 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
/with all the coding and artwork that will have to be dedicated to make this happen... is it not a jesus feature?

i thought you guys were going against jesus features but now this is your one main thing that you want to be redone...

dont get me wrong i fully support the enhanced modular pos idea... i just think its hypocritical to claim you are against jesus features when you are proposing one...


For me you have to come to an agreement as to what a "Jesus Feature" is. For me its some giant totally new thing that isn't in the current game in some form.

The POS revamp has been discussed and promised in some form for a while now. While it is a major feature improvement it is also much needed evolution of an existing feature. So not a "Jesus Feature".

There are a number of features I hope to see from CCP that might be a lot of work, like ring mining, that are an evolution of existing Eve experiences.

A "Jesus Feature" would be something totally not in Eve at the moment like surface vehicles for first person avatar planetary exploration and colony habitat construction.

Hope that helps,

Issler


fair enough i was interpreting a "jesus feature" as something that would take alot of devs to work and and thus would have to let other areas of the game fall behind just to finish it... i was not differentiation from old and new feature but recourse allocation for development...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-06-12 02:27:17 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
/with all the coding and artwork that will have to be dedicated to make this happen... is it not a jesus feature?

i thought you guys were going against jesus features but now this is your one main thing that you want to be redone...

dont get me wrong i fully support the enhanced modular pos idea... i just think its hypocritical to claim you are against jesus features when you are proposing one...


For me you have to come to an agreement as to what a "Jesus Feature" is. For me its some giant totally new thing that isn't in the current game in some form.

The POS revamp has been discussed and promised in some form for a while now. While it is a major feature improvement it is also much needed evolution of an existing feature. So not a "Jesus Feature".

There are a number of features I hope to see from CCP that might be a lot of work, like ring mining, that are an evolution of existing Eve experiences.

A "Jesus Feature" would be something totally not in Eve at the moment like surface vehicles for first person avatar planetary exploration and colony habitat construction.

Hope that helps,

Issler


Thanks for the explanation. "Jesus feature - What the hell is he talking about - WiS stuff?" *snicker*

POS revamp = cool. I really liked some of the modular design concept art that came up with discussions on it a couple years ago.

POS *MANAGEMENT* revamp = far more awesome IMO but hey, you take what you can get. Maybe next pass at these things and people are more married to eye-candy changes these days. P
Ravan Hekki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-06-23 23:21:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ravan Hekki
For me a Jesus feature would be the ability to turn veldspar to moon goo or resurect mittens political career.

EDIT: Too soon?
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#8 - 2012-06-25 12:00:40 UTC
yeah it is too soon to resurrect that career. I think jesus feature is anything bigger then faction warfare or involves the whole game to implement and not everyone owns or uses poses.

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-06-25 22:41:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Scatim Helicon
My understanding of a Jesus Feature is one which so spellbinds CCP at the management level that they believe that this is the Next Big Thing that will Change Eve Forever, that they have to shove aside everything else that they were working on and the customers were requesting and expecting, and that throwing a couple of years of development at something like the hopelessly limited Captain's Quarters is a sensible and sane use of resources.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#10 - 2012-06-26 00:56:28 UTC
I have spoken to Jesus, and he has confirmed that he has had nothing to do with the proposed POS revamp.
Ravan Hekki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-06-26 20:48:41 UTC
Prehaps it will cast out the many demonic voices that rant on the forums?
Hathrul
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2012-07-03 16:09:06 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
ban npc forum alts from forums

+1!
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#13 - 2012-07-03 23:38:42 UTC
Hathrul wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
ban npc forum alts from forums

+1!


Don't hate the player.

Hate the Game.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#14 - 2012-07-04 03:51:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
"Jesus Feature"

CCP Unifex = Jon Lander, Senior Producer of EVE Online @ 17:53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJbwZCgNgU&list=PLDDA989F65CD6E98A&index=2&feature=plpp_video


From Trebor's blog:

Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Jesus is dead

Of all the things said at last weeks CSM summit in Iceland, perhaps the most striking was a comment, offered almost offhand, by Hilmar in the final session:

"The era of the Jesus feature is over"

A Jesus feature, it emerged, is something that turns "4 loaves of bread into 50,000 new subscribers". It's the home run, the called shot into deep left field, the awesome idea that will solve all of CCP's problems, carved in a stone tablet made of virgin Eyjafjallajökull lava and delivered from on high down to the adoring fish-factory devs.

You get the idea.

Instead, forced by circumstance to play small ball ("The whale **** has hit the propeller, and we have no time to make a grand plan"), CCP spent the fall hitting a bunch of singles.

The result was Crucible, and it was good. Because Crucible delivered what most of the players have been wanting for years -- improvement to the current game.

http://treborofthecsm.blogspot.ca/2011/12/jesus-is-dead.html
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#15 - 2012-07-06 08:23:46 UTC
Try living in wormspace out of a POS and then decide if the revamp is a "Jesus Feature"

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-07-06 09:33:39 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
ban npc forum alts from csm forums

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#17 - 2012-07-06 23:14:39 UTC
Wouldn't CSM be a Jesus feature as well then? A brand new thing, that brings in more subscriptions and good press to the game?

I suppose it wasn't one, since CCP mostly ignored them for awhile and went ahead with other jesus features, then them.

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Laechyd Eldgorn
Avanto
Hole Control
#18 - 2012-07-15 08:29:12 UTC
current POS mechanics are so bad that CCP should cut subscription fees to half

honestly, if you look at eve today you might think why the f you are paying for it, unless you're like blind and mentally limited.

quality offered is not really what you should get for that money.