Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This idea is shot down daily in suggestions. What makes you think it would fair better in GD?

There was a time that I supported a ONE TIME SP remap. However, since I sold my main, bought another toon and created this one, it really has no more bearing on me and thus, I am neutral about it. I will say that Neural Remaps should also be considered as removing both consequence and smoothing out the learning curve somewhat. Like SP, attributes should be committed once the character is made. But then again, since they dumbed down the creation process, I guess there isn't too much of a choice there now, is there?

This is such a good idea.

I can only hope that hilmar is reading this

So all you hard core seasoned head cases think this will ruin Eve?
You must be on some high grade drugs to think this.

Let's see how best to explain it to you.

They gave back the SP from all the learning skills. I got back 2.3mil SP. something like that and it was from like 5 skills, not just 1.I spent my points in something I needed and Eve has not been destroyed. I'm at a total loss for words. My spending the 2.3mil SP should by what you tell me destabilized the whole game. I am disappointed now.

Remapping skill you get once a year and Eve is still moving along and not on fire or been pulled into a Black Hole.
Very strange indeed.

Yet you tell me getting the ability once a year to skill points from 1 skill let say mining will tear the very fabrice of space and time killing Eve?

You kids are amusing I will give you that, but WOW.. ROFLMAO....

I'm going to do you a favor here. After I do you will probably leap at the new chance to fling poo around or whatever it is that you do in place of being a useful and grown up person. That's your deal.

When offering a suggestion, one generally has a set of burdens that must first be met in order for that suggestion to be considered better than the status quo.

1) You must establish a need for your suggested action. If I do not have a problem, I will certainly not need your solution. In this case, you have never shown a reason that the game needs an ability to randomly remap skill points. Therefore, with this step alone unmet, I have no reason to consider needing your idea to do so.

2) You must establish a reason that the system in place now (stat remaps on long timers and SP only returned in extreme cases) is inferior to your suggestion. Since you provide no reason to suggest that these are not adequate, I also have no reason to consider them as such and again, I find no reason why I would need your suggestion to fix something that is apparently fine and dandy.

In addition to all of this I would also consider that insulting everyone in the thread that tells you that this idea has been considered before and previously rejected for a,b.c...zz reasons is generally a poor reaction if your goal was to convince other people to support the idea now.

Hope this all helps.

Edit: Also, making the second post in your own thread on an alt praising the idea with an empty "You go girl" is beyond unhelpful. Thought I'd tack that on here. Don't do that.

The reason your post was subjected to derision is because you made a thread about a stupid subject that has been discussed, dismissed, re-discussed, re-hashed and subsequently filed under "moronic idea with no benefits at all" a long time ago. I suggest researching such things in future to avoid such a backlash.

This is a new and original idea.

Hint: it gets the same response every time it comes up

I suggested something like this a long time ago, and have since decided it's generally a bad idea. That said, here is the ONE possible "SP refund" idea that I think could work without being abused:

After 18-24 months of subscription, allow pilots to "unlearn" from 1-2 million SP. This would allow people to recover SP lost to noob mistakes after they've played long enough to recognize noob mistakes. It would be a one-time release per account.

This would let me get back about half of the now-useless industry skills I trained early on before I really had the game figured out. Yes it's completely self-serving, but what suggestions aren't around here.

EVE is a game of consequences. WHy is the removal of these consequences a good thing?