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Suicide Gankers - The New Soon to be Carebears or Not?
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#81 - 2012-06-11 19:13:24 UTC
Tippia wrote:
They're managing and mitigating their risk. That's pretty much the final proof that the risk is there, and that they're not refusing to risk those ships.


Incorrect. That only means they are low skilled players who don't have what it takes to fight.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#82 - 2012-06-11 19:13:39 UTC
Tippia wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:


Hek, even can flippers run away if there's even a small chance they lose their ship.
I live in The Citadel, so I have no idea what goes on in Hek. And yes? So what? They're managing and mitigating their risk. That's pretty much the final proof that the risk is there, and that they're not refusing to risk those ships.


I just flipped a can and engaged a drake in an Iteron V.

It was a draw.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#83 - 2012-06-11 19:15:34 UTC
Aldeskwatso wrote:
You are fixating so much on how my point of view came to be and missing what the actual point of view is.
No. I am wondering what you have to support your point of view. It doesn't seem to be much aside assumptions about gankers' motivations and reasoning.

Your assertions look like strawman arguments, and your question born from these assertions seems completely academic because it has no connection to the realities of the situation you're asking about.

Basically, you're asking “what if cars were made from balloon animals, wouldn't that mean that hedgehogs are the largest menace to highway traffic?” except you're skipping the “what if” part and going with the assumption that they are and then claim hedgehogs are really really horrible. I'm asking you why on earth you'd think that cars would be built from balloon animals.

And no, it's not about experience or interpretation — you are making some very explicit claims about what people say and do, and I'm asking you to back those claims up.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#84 - 2012-06-11 19:19:49 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Tippia wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:


Hek, even can flippers run away if there's even a small chance they lose their ship.
I live in The Citadel, so I have no idea what goes on in Hek. And yes? So what? They're managing and mitigating their risk. That's pretty much the final proof that the risk is there, and that they're not refusing to risk those ships.


I just flipped a can and engaged a drake in an Iteron V.

It was a draw.


i have seen this before thought the quote was not from me... just a lousy copy and paste effort...


you killed his drones first so he could no longer kill you but he is purger setup so you did not have enough dps to break tank?

i remember once trying to save a pve drake in scalding pass that was purger fit... i was attacked by three ships that could not break my tank and i could not keep them still due to the fact i could not refit as i had no station rights...

was rather funny after 15 min they gave up and let me pass lol...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
SetrakDark
Doomheim
#85 - 2012-06-11 19:20:09 UTC
Tippia? More like Tippiowned, amirite?

Hi5s.

Hi5s for everyone.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#86 - 2012-06-11 19:23:59 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Tippia wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:


Hek, even can flippers run away if there's even a small chance they lose their ship.
I live in The Citadel, so I have no idea what goes on in Hek. And yes? So what? They're managing and mitigating their risk. That's pretty much the final proof that the risk is there, and that they're not refusing to risk those ships.


I just flipped a can and engaged a drake in an Iteron V.

It was a draw.


i have seen this before thought the quote was not from me... just a lousy copy and paste effort...


you killed his drones first so he could no longer kill you but he is purger setup so you did not have enough dps to break tank?

i remember once trying to save a pve drake in scalding pass that was purger fit... i was attacked by three ships that could not break my tank and i could not keep them still due to the fact i could not refit as i had no station rights...

was rather funny after 15 min they gave up and let me pass lol...


Yea drakes are hard to kill with only a single small gun. I have taken down a battleship before though, took me 30 min :D
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-06-11 19:24:49 UTC
SetrakDark wrote:
Tippia? More like Tippiowned, amirite?


I think Drop is better.

Tippia -> Tippa -> Drop
Aldeskwatso
Primus Societas
Crimson Interstellar Alliance
#88 - 2012-06-11 19:35:43 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Aldeskwatso wrote:
You are fixating so much on how my point of view came to be and missing what the actual point of view is.
No. I am wondering what you have to support your point of view. It doesn't seem to be much aside assumptions about gankers' motivations and reasoning.

Your assertions look like strawman arguments, and your question born from these assertions seems completely academic because it has no connection to the realities of the situation you're asking about.

Basically, you're asking “what if cars were made from balloon animals, wouldn't that mean that hedgehogs are the largest menace to highway traffic?” except you're skipping the “what if” part and going with the assumption that they are and then claim hedgehogs are really really horrible. I'm asking you why on earth you'd think that cars would be built from balloon animals.

And no, it's not about experience or interpretation — you are making some very explicit claims about what people say and do, and I'm asking you to back those claims up.


For arguments sake lets assume for now I have actually logged my conversations, video footage of my experiences including comment, care about making the effort to back up my empty claims and believe I have unwavering faith in my salvation if you would agree with me and I actually manage to convince you of what ever you think I'm trying to convince you of.

Then what? It would still actually be insignificant and meaningless being the oppinion of one person. Just you.

It's possible to find enough evidence to back up my claims on this forum. Do it yourself tho. To much effort for to little gain.

Besides, skipping the "what if"? You should read back a little. It's there.

The biggest obstacle you'll encounter doing anything is yourself.
Arcturis Achasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2012-06-11 20:03:58 UTC
I just read this whole thread from beginning to finish.

And i have come to a huge conclusion

Tippa (or whatever the **** her name is) drew all attention away from the original topic at every opportunity, drawing attention to how OP started his argument and how other people posting on this thread are misinterpreting words and ideals.

For my conclusion i would like to state that Tippa is the scum of the universe\

A Politician.


Also suicide gankers suck
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-06-11 20:10:11 UTC
Arcturis Achasse wrote:
Also suicide gankers suck


I wouldn't say that, but a bit boring. Also nowhere to be found.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#91 - 2012-06-11 20:12:42 UTC
well he will take a word like risk and take it literally not what the peron is meaning and then argue from there... you see in his sig he writes if you are not willing to fight then you dont deserve and since he is a station char this is his version of pvp and will fight for maintaining the status quo becuse it suites him

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#92 - 2012-06-11 20:13:33 UTC
In reply to the OP: It's about as likely as carebears becoming the next gankers.

TL;DR: /thread.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#93 - 2012-06-11 20:14:00 UTC
Arcturis Achasse wrote:
For my conclusion i would like to state that Tippa is the scum of the universe

If you're going to do something, might as well do it right.

Quote:
Also suicide gankers suck

That's not a nice thing to say at all.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#94 - 2012-06-11 20:14:05 UTC
So what are we talking about now?
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#95 - 2012-06-11 20:16:18 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
So what are we talking about now?



why they call them french fries when we all know it was Belgium that made them first...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Arcturis Achasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2012-06-11 20:18:13 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Arcturis Achasse wrote:
For my conclusion i would like to state that Tippa is the scum of the universe

If you're going to do something, might as well do it right.

Quote:
Also suicide gankers suck

That's not a nice thing to say at all.



Go Big or Go Home
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#97 - 2012-06-11 20:18:21 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
So what are we talking about now?



why they call them french fries when we all know it was Belgium that made them first...


Ah Belgium, a nation created for Britain and Germany to sort out their differences.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#98 - 2012-06-11 20:27:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Incorrect. That only means they are low skilled players who don't have what it takes to fight.
…so they mitigate the risks they have to take.

SetrakDark wrote:
Tippia? More like Tippiowned, amirite?
Kind of, but for different reasons.
I'm usually always Tippis, but it was taken so I had to go for plan “a” instead. Late-comerowned. Cry

Aldeskwatso wrote:
For arguments sake lets assume […]

Then what? It would still actually be insignificant and meaningless being the oppinion of one person. Just you.
No. Let's not assume. Let's get some actual examples of what you're referring to. Since this topic is the latest rage on the forums, you really should have no problems finding some if they common enough to warrant calling gankers carebears because they don't follow some ethos you've assigned to them.

Quote:
Besides, skipping the "what if"? You should read back a little. It's there.
No, because you keep making claims about their assertions and then build on them — there is no “what if” about those claims.

By the way, speaking of skipping, did you notice that your question was answered? Do you have any comment on that answer?

Arcturis Achasse wrote:
Tippa (or whatever the **** her name is) drew all attention away from the original topic at every opportunity, drawing attention to how OP started his argument and how other people posting on this thread are misinterpreting words and ideals.
Is reading really that hard? If it is, is copy-pasting really that hard? It's an internet forum. How do you manage not to get a very simple name right. It's six letters long and only uses four very distinct letters of the alphabet.

Anyway, your problem is that in focusing all your attention on me questioning the basis for the OP's claims and questions, I also answered said question. I'm also answering “mu” to a classic loaded question.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#99 - 2012-06-11 20:50:31 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…so they mitigate the risks they have to take.


About that "mining is risk free"... Big smile

Tippia wrote:
How do you manage not to get a very simple name right. It's six letters long and only uses four very distinct letters of the alphabet.


Drop is easier to pronounce and it fits better to your posts.
Arcturis Achasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2012-06-11 21:17:57 UTC

Tippia wrote:
How do you manage not to get a very simple name right. It's six letters long and only uses four very distinct letters of the alphabet.


Drop is easier to pronounce and it fits better to your posts.[/quote]

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