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SNI vs angels
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Cytan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-06-09 17:20:45 UTC
I was thinking of cross training for a SNI. mostly cause of the look. and I want to play with the new missle look. How well does an SNI handle angel cartel missions? Are missles in general not good compared to Projectile weapons in pve? And how sexy does my avatar look? I mean seriously. I look good.
Bossy Lady
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#2 - 2012-06-09 18:45:04 UTC
You look very nice, dear.

SNI will easily do Angel missions, but slightly slower than a navy raven. Missions Angels are pretty easy to shield tank.

Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M.
Cytan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-06-09 19:02:57 UTC
Thanks boss!
Alara IonStorm
#4 - 2012-06-09 19:33:26 UTC
I use this for Angel missions.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Angel Scorp]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

The mid mix is pretty good. LSB, SBA, 2x EM, Therm, Invuln, Cap Boost, Painter for Sansha / Bloods and only 1 EM hardener for drones with an extra Invuln. For Serp / Gurista it is LSB, SBA, Kin, Therm, Invuln, Cap Boost, ECCM / Sebo, Painter.

It is a nice lazy ship that has pretty good DPS. Battleships and BC it is worth using Furies and I find 2 Painters for Angel good.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#5 - 2012-06-10 04:45:50 UTC
it should work I'd just think it would be a bit slow. SNI doesn't have all that much dps, but it should have a pretty damn awesome tank vs angels.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-06-10 05:35:19 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
it should work I'd just think it would be a bit slow. SNI doesn't have all that much dps, but it should have a pretty damn awesome tank vs angels.

It has plenty dps.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#7 - 2012-06-10 09:12:00 UTC
But still less than a Navy Raven no matter what you do, which has enough tank, and after you have enough tank in missions, all that matters is dps.
Alara IonStorm
#8 - 2012-06-10 10:04:09 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
But still less than a Navy Raven no matter what you do, which has enough tank, and after you have enough tank in missions, all that matters is dps.

Untrue. Just enough tank only matters when you run missions at maximum speed. They are boring and youtube exists so those extra resists that make it take forever for rats to grind down my tank making it possible to earn money for the fun part of the game without slipping into a boredom coma.

That is worth 1 Launchers worth of DPS to a lot of people.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#9 - 2012-06-10 11:09:01 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
it should work I'd just think it would be a bit slow. SNI doesn't have all that much dps, but it should have a pretty damn awesome tank vs angels.

It has plenty dps.

nearly every other faction battleship has more.

Alara IonStorm wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
But still less than a Navy Raven no matter what you do, which has enough tank, and after you have enough tank in missions, all that matters is dps.

Untrue. Just enough tank only matters when you run missions at maximum speed. They are boring and youtube exists so those extra resists that make it take forever for rats to grind down my tank making it possible to earn money for the fun part of the game without slipping into a boredom coma.

That is worth 1 Launchers worth of DPS to a lot of people.

imo get a tengu or drone boat then. there are better semi afk options!

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-06-10 14:03:28 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
But still less than a Navy Raven no matter what you do, which has enough tank, and after you have enough tank in missions, all that matters is dps.



Actually there's nothing easier to gank than nicely dead space/officer fitted Navy Ravens when it comes to gank Pirate faction ships, SNI's are pretty tough.

brb
Cytan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-06-10 14:34:15 UTC
Yeah but serious guys. I look good don't I? I mean great info about the sni. But I'm sexy right?
Kalli Brixzat
#12 - 2012-06-10 15:41:55 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
But still less than a Navy Raven no matter what you do, which has enough tank, and after you have enough tank in missions, all that matters is dps.



Actually there's nothing easier to gank than nicely dead space/officer fitted Navy Ravens when it comes to gank Pirate faction ships, SNI's are pretty tough.


There's FAR easier things to gank than a CNR. Whether or not it has enough tank is up for debate, but it goes without saying that breaking its tank is more effort than its worth. Especially if properly fit.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-06-10 20:35:08 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
it should work I'd just think it would be a bit slow. SNI doesn't have all that much dps, but it should have a pretty damn awesome tank vs angels.

It has plenty dps.

nearly every other faction battleship has more.

I also have Fleet Tempest fitted with t2 800mm ac. My Navy Scorp does more dps than My Fleet Pest.

Also remind everyone how much more you have to pay for those other faction battleships.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#14 - 2012-06-10 22:53:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Chainsaw Plankton
Kalli Brixzat wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Actually there's nothing easier to gank than nicely dead space/officer fitted Navy Ravens when it comes to gank Pirate faction ships, SNI's are pretty tough.


There's FAR easier things to gank than a CNR. Whether or not it has enough tank is up for debate, but it goes without saying that breaking its tank is more effort than its worth. Especially if properly fit.



golems nearly always have less ehp than a navy raven. and hell if you are paranoid you can still fit 4x bcus and a damage control on a raven. nearly all the ease to gank is on the fit (and pilot lazyness ffs turn your hardeners on).

Caleidascope wrote:
I also have Fleet Tempest fitted with t2 800mm ac. My Navy Scorp does more dps than My Fleet Pest.

Also remind everyone how much more you have to pay for those other faction battleships.


either:
1. the tempest is fit horribly wrong
2. the scorp is using torps and well then it probably isn't doing a great job applying that dps.

and meh cost. I'm going to outperform in the long run. so what if I spend another 500m initially? if you are going to bring up cost might as well fly a standard raven instead of a navy scorp. that will get you the same dps and save you a few hundred mil.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-06-10 23:09:25 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:

2. the scorp is using torps and well then it probably isn't doing a great job applying that dps.

lol

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#16 - 2012-06-11 00:47:37 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:

2. the scorp is using torps and well then it probably isn't doing a great job applying that dps.

lol


best you can do?

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
drdxie
#17 - 2012-06-11 01:57:54 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
it should work I'd just think it would be a bit slow. SNI doesn't have all that much dps, but it should have a pretty damn awesome tank vs angels.


I have tried both in missions. Take the top fit, drop the damage control, add another BCS. You will get much better applied dps using the SNI because of the TP's than you will with the Navy Raven.. try it.. remember, you not only shooting at BS's

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#18 - 2012-06-11 21:15:45 UTC
drdxie wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
it should work I'd just think it would be a bit slow. SNI doesn't have all that much dps, but it should have a pretty damn awesome tank vs angels.


I have tried both in missions. Take the top fit, drop the damage control, add another BCS. You will get much better applied dps using the SNI because of the TP's than you will with the Navy Raven.. try it.. remember, you not only shooting at BS's


the difference is more or less only going to be on fast cruisers... not sure I see the navy scorp pulling ahead of the cnr due to a slight advantage there.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-06-12 13:06:19 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
drdxie wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
it should work I'd just think it would be a bit slow. SNI doesn't have all that much dps, but it should have a pretty damn awesome tank vs angels.


I have tried both in missions. Take the top fit, drop the damage control, add another BCS. You will get much better applied dps using the SNI because of the TP's than you will with the Navy Raven.. try it.. remember, you not only shooting at BS's


the difference is more or less only going to be on fast cruisers... not sure I see the navy scorp pulling ahead of the cnr due to a slight advantage there.



Advantage can be improved futher by, using larger drones and using a rig for an ejection bay.

Drones profit from your TP's as well, and because of them you don't need to spend all your riggs on Rigors and or Flares.
Boomhaur
#20 - 2012-06-13 05:23:40 UTC
SNI will work but depending on your gunnery skills may be a downgrade in being slower. Though I will admit it does look cool, I somehow played eve since 06 and never looked closely at that hull till recently and it look good. And no one in space can see you scream in your pod, or hear you. So don't worry about your looks the pod goo will fix that, the only ones who see you are the ones who pod you, and unfortunately you get a special poison injected into you the very moment when the hull of your pod is breached which kills your instantly.

Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you.
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