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No place for a high sec pos
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Maxious
Dragon Knights of EvE
#1 - 2012-06-10 16:35:12 UTC
Ok so my entire corp is screaming at me to get us a high sec pos "GET US A HIGH SEC POS" they say. Now I listen to what the corp wants and try to make it happen. I've designed the new pos. researched the net for everything I know. Start operations to get isk to buy the thing and start stockpiling materials for fuel and such. Getting a second account trained up in corp management to make a temp corp to hold all my corpies whilst setting up. Spent ages finding a prime site and now good to go

Found this system. Great little system. It's got ice for my corp. it's got 12 asteroids belts for mining. And it has a station with a refiner. Prime site. Ok I'll take it. 
Went to the first moon. Their is a pos already there. Just a small control tower. Nothing else and has no power. Been abandoned by the look of it. Looked at the corp that owned it. About 5 people. Looks like the corp is dead and has been for a long time. Oh well this moon is tied up by some floating scrap. I'll try the next moon.... 2 hours and 38 moons later. I found that every moon is tied up. DAM no places left. I did a d scan but that shows only 33 stations but 38 moons. Their should be 5 moons free. But my eye check shows all moons taken.  

Ok so this prime site is all use up by floating scrap mettle. Went to next neighbouring system. And initial d scan shows the same results. So what's going on here? Is it really so hard to get a high sec pos? Do stations get destroyed over time? What happens if you don't keep starbase charters topped up. Am I going to have to wardec a company to make space in a system? 
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-06-10 16:37:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Disregard That
Maxious wrote:
Ok so my entire corp is screaming at me to get us a high sec pos "GET US A HIGH SEC POS" they say. Now I listen to what the corp wants and try to make it happen. I've designed the new pos. researched the net for everything I know. Start operations to get isk to buy the thing and start stockpiling materials for fuel and such. Getting a second account trained up in corp management to make a temp corp to hold all my corpies whilst setting up. Spent ages finding a prime site and now good to go

Found this system. Great little system. It's got ice for my corp. it's got 12 asteroids belts for mining. And it has a station with a refiner. Prime site. Ok I'll take it. 
Went to the first moon. Their is a pos already there. Just a small control tower. Nothing else and has no power. Been abandoned by the look of it. Looked at the corp that owned it. About 5 people. Looks like the corp is dead and has been for a long time. Oh well this moon is tied up by some floating scrap. I'll try the next moon.... 2 hours and 38 moons later. I found that every moon is tied up. DAM no places left. I did a d scan but that shows only 33 stations but 38 moons. Their should be 5 moons free. But my eye check shows all moons taken.  

Ok so this prime site is all use up by floating scrap mettle. Went to next neighbouring system. And initial d scan shows the same results. So what's going on here? Is it really so hard to get a high sec pos? Do stations get destroyed over time? What happens if you don't keep starbase charters topped up. Am I going to have to wardec a company to make space in a system? 

1) Declare war.

2) Shoot unpowered tower.

3) Profit.

How is this not obvious to you, man? THIS IS A SPACE WAR GAME!

Edit: Also, first.

Double Edit: D-Scan has a finite range. Your 3 ghost stations are off-scan.
Masikari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-06-10 16:38:24 UTC
Yup, WarDec the Corp with the dead tower and blast it to make way for yours.
Rengerel en Distel
#4 - 2012-06-10 16:38:54 UTC
Maxious wrote:

Ok so this prime site is all use up by floating scrap mettle. Went to next neighbouring system. And initial d scan shows the same results. So what's going on here? Is it really so hard to get a high sec pos? Do stations get destroyed over time? What happens if you don't keep starbase charters topped up. Am I going to have to wardec a company to make space in a system? 


If you want a moon in that system, yes, you'll have to wardec and destroy their POS. If the POS is offline, it doesn't use fuel or charters. It'll never just autodestruct.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Ricardo Aguti
Diagnosed Power Units
#5 - 2012-06-10 16:39:08 UTC
War dec them, blow up their POS, put up your own.

That's what the Wardec system is there for. Many of the highsec POSes have been there for years. YEARS!!! Most don't even have guns. You can probably pay someone to do it for you.
SetrakDark
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-06-10 16:39:25 UTC
Disregard That wrote:
1) Declare war.

2) Shoot unpowered tower.

3) Profit.

How is this not obvious to you, man? THIS IS A SPACE WAR GAME!


What she said.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#7 - 2012-06-10 16:40:24 UTC
So, the game's been around for 9 years. The HS map hasn't changed in those 9 years. The reasons people think places are prime haven't changed in 9 years. Why are you surprised that the prime spaces are all squatted?

Wardec someone or find something less prime.

Figure out what you actually need the POS for. Except Research, anything a POS can do, a Station does better, cheaper.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2012-06-10 16:47:39 UTC
No, it's not particularly hard.

You just don't limit yourself to a specific system, and you start looking in places that are a bit off the beaten path.
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-06-10 16:48:01 UTC
Masikari wrote:
Yup, WarDec the Corp with the dead tower and blast it to make way for yours.

Or pay someone else for its removal.. There are pos removeal mercs out there.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2012-06-10 16:51:42 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
Masikari wrote:
Yup, WarDec the Corp with the dead tower and blast it to make way for yours.
Or pay someone else for its removal.. There are pos removeal mercs out there.
Or, hell, sometimes you can even pay the owners to get the spot — they get cash and keep their asset; you get the spot. Everyone wins (except the mercs). P

…but it's an unorthodox method with little to no guarantees that it will actually work.
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#11 - 2012-06-10 16:58:57 UTC
Hire BLSHL ! Idea

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

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Vxrasa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-06-10 17:06:22 UTC
Your corp name is literally The 'Dragon Knights of EVE'. There is no emoticon of an exploding psyduck head strong enough to describe that. Either blow up the POS or hire someone else to do it. This game doesn't really reward timidness.
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#13 - 2012-06-10 17:13:03 UTC  |  Edited by: adam smash
Yes it is that hard to war dec and pop it rofl... wtf...

Edit... maybe time to get a CEO that knows wtf is going on in eve?

$20 says they want to rob the pos LOL. No reason to put one up execept for R&D and that's like prime easy to steal stuff doing.
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-06-10 17:36:21 UTC
You must be right on top of Jita. There are so many unclaimed moons it crazy. War-dec an inactive corp and blow up a small tower.

Just curious what do you need a high-sec pos for? The onlything high-sec pos do AFAIK is invention/manufacturing. That is a solo, or small tightly-knit group activity, not a pub corp activity. Someone is gonna rob ya.
Bossy Lady
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#15 - 2012-06-10 19:41:53 UTC
Vxrasa wrote:
Your corp name is literally The 'Dragon Knights of EVE'. There is no emoticon of an exploding psyduck head strong enough to describe that. Either blow up the POS or hire someone else to do it. This game doesn't really reward timidness.



It's a truism in EVE that the more aggressive and ominous the name or title, the bigger the bear that cowers behind it.

Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M.
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#16 - 2012-06-10 19:45:53 UTC
If you want something, take it.

To keep/hold something, defend it.

That's how this game works.

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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#17 - 2012-06-10 20:02:31 UTC
Jesus get a geddon -> war dec -> leave geddon afk to shoot the POS -> come back in the morning. RollPirate

If your geddon and (your pod) aren't there no longer then the POS wasn't obviously abandoned just "in hibernation".


Shooting abandoned POS in high sec is no rocket science, folks.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#18 - 2012-06-10 20:11:03 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
If you want something, take it.

To keep/hold something, defend it.

That's how this game works.



Or pay someone to take/defend it for you (and hope you don't get double-crossed)

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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#19 - 2012-06-10 20:15:03 UTC
He just asked a question and the "we know it all you must be dumb or timid " squad comes out to play Roll

Tal
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-06-10 20:19:58 UTC
Tell CEO you found the spot, but he needs to wardec the dead corp that has the moon. then get everybody together in Geddons and have fun shooting a small tower for hours. Oh and have the tower you are going to use right there waiting, as someone will snipe it if you are not quick enough placing your own.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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