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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#41 - 2012-06-10 11:21:52 UTC
Thanks for all the input. Please note that I've drawn the attention of the relevant people on the EVE Project to this thread so do keep them coming. Big smile

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-06-10 11:30:07 UTC
Hannott Thanos wrote:
pfff, hush with you bad resolutions. 1920 * 1200 is the only way to go!

Preach on, Brother. 1080 vertical resolution is literally the shite of chikunz compared to 1200.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-06-10 11:32:57 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Thanks for all the input. Please note that I've drawn the attention of the relevant people on the EVE Project to this thread so do keep them coming. Big smile



YAY \o/ :D :D
Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-06-10 11:35:32 UTC
Disregard That wrote:
No, CCP Explorer clearly has the idea.

Now we'll just have to wait and see if it makes the "Action Items" pile.

We can but hope. And maybe nudge a little.

Wear one of these while you wait.

Dear CCP: NO, do not waste time on this.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#45 - 2012-06-10 14:24:49 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Thanks for all the input. Please note that I've drawn the attention of the relevant people on the EVE Project to this thread so do keep them coming. Big smile


You want some interesting feedback about the state of the matter? When you do the finals for the next Alliance tournament host them in the Domain region, preferably inside a gas cloud area (mission or LADAR site for example). That should clear up any concerns about the visibility issue pretty quick.

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-06-10 16:55:51 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
CCP Explorer wrote:
This 'widescreen' option was initially added way back to give the option of providing a more cinematic feel to EVE at a time when widescreen monitors were generally not available. Widescreen monitors are pretty much standard nowadays (1920x1080 and 1680x1050 are by far the most common full screen resolutions) and it was simply too much work to maintain this option.


edit:ok you got the point, but I too asw the blue post and thought, YES Finally! lol :P

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-06-10 17:12:54 UTC
I've never actually tried this.


Can we adjust the individual UI elements background color? If not, wouldn't that solve the letter box issue that some people have? If it's about the contrast between the elements background, and actual gamespace, I would think that the solution would be to allow for us to adjust each element individually to achive the proper focus without having to alter elements we don't want to.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2012-06-10 21:18:33 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
I've never actually tried this.


Can we adjust the individual UI elements background color? If not, wouldn't that solve the letter box issue that some people have? If it's about the contrast between the elements background, and actual gamespace, I would think that the solution would be to allow for us to adjust each element individually to achive the proper focus without having to alter elements we don't want to.

No that's not possible right now ... and tbh, that's *much* more work than simply dropping
one black fullscreen texture using a stencil buffer, or two smaller black textures onto the screen. xD
Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#49 - 2012-06-11 21:47:41 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
This 'widescreen' option was initially added way back to give the option of providing a more cinematic feel to EVE at a time when widescreen monitors were generally not available. Widescreen monitors are pretty much standard nowadays (1920x1080 and 1680x1050 are by far the most common full screen resolutions) and it was simply too much work to maintain this option.

Not for whoever is in charge of the login-screen, apparently.

http://i.imgur.com/XrWYd.jpg
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#50 - 2012-06-11 22:23:26 UTC
Ravcharas wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
This 'widescreen' option was initially added way back to give the option of providing a more cinematic feel to EVE at a time when widescreen monitors were generally not available. Widescreen monitors are pretty much standard nowadays (1920x1080 and 1680x1050 are by far the most common full screen resolutions) and it was simply too much work to maintain this option.
Not for whoever is in charge of the login-screen, apparently.

http://i.imgur.com/XrWYd.jpg
My bad; can you also post a screenshot showing the login screen with the bars turned off?

... of course you can't since there is no such option. And that's the point, it was too much maintenance to maintain the option. The login screen is very much a one-off custom-made window. In addition work is under way to move the login into the launcher and to get rid of the login screen.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Sarmatiko
#51 - 2012-06-11 22:55:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
CCP Explorer wrote:
In addition work is under way to move the login into the launcher and to get rid of the login screen.

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

On a serious note, maybe then we can have such nice features (of personal choice) like "save password" or "chroma hash for masked password field". Roll
Reason for this in backlog style: "As player who switch between accounts and input different passwords and misstype alot, I can see color hash of my password before pressing login button and waiting "wrong password error". Instead I can correct password if i remember color hash."
ArenaNet done this in soon-to-be-released game and this is very user friendly feature: http://i.imgur.com/1NyMY.jpg

Sorry for offtopic P
Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#52 - 2012-06-11 23:06:20 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Ravcharas wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
This 'widescreen' option was initially added way back to give the option of providing a more cinematic feel to EVE at a time when widescreen monitors were generally not available. Widescreen monitors are pretty much standard nowadays (1920x1080 and 1680x1050 are by far the most common full screen resolutions) and it was simply too much work to maintain this option.
Not for whoever is in charge of the login-screen, apparently.

http://i.imgur.com/XrWYd.jpg
My bad; can you also post a screenshot showing the login screen with the bars turned off?

... of course you can't since there is no such option. And that's the point, it was too much maintenance to maintain the option. The login screen is very much a one-off custom-made window. In addition work is under way to move the login into the launcher and to get rid of the login screen.

I see. So the issue was compared to the number of users who had it enabled the testing time wasn't worth it?
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#53 - 2012-06-11 23:42:37 UTC
CCP Explorer,

What it actually did is alter the Field Of View, from 60/75 degrees to 80/90 degrees (guessing) - and the relative camera position had to therefore be moved backwards, which is why it went into letterbox mode for the game graphics, but not the UI.

It made for good videos, as it would give you a wider angle for 'epic shots' of space - sadly now gone forever, probably.

There are other things CCP could do to make a video producers life better...

AK

This space for rent.
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#54 - 2012-06-12 00:13:47 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
In addition work is under way to move the login into the launcher and to get rid of the login screen.
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

On a serious note, maybe then we can have such nice features (of personal choice) like "save password" or "chroma hash for masked password field". Roll
Reason for this in backlog style: "As player who switch between accounts and input different passwords and misstype alot, I can see color hash of my password before pressing login button and waiting "wrong password error". Instead I can correct password if i remember color hash."
ArenaNet done this in soon-to-be-released game and this is very user friendly feature: http://i.imgur.com/1NyMY.jpg

Sorry for offtopic P
I'll pass that suggestion along.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#55 - 2012-06-12 00:38:04 UTC
MadMuppet wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Thanks for all the input. Please note that I've drawn the attention of the relevant people on the EVE Project to this thread so do keep them coming. Big smile


You want some interesting feedback about the state of the matter? When you do the finals for the next Alliance tournament host them in the Domain region, preferably inside a gas cloud area (mission or LADAR site for example). That should clear up any concerns about the visibility issue pretty quick.


I can see the headlines:
CCP, famed for its boot.ini debacle, turns heads with burn.retinae

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-06-12 00:41:37 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Ravcharas wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
This 'widescreen' option was initially added way back to give the option of providing a more cinematic feel to EVE at a time when widescreen monitors were generally not available. Widescreen monitors are pretty much standard nowadays (1920x1080 and 1680x1050 are by far the most common full screen resolutions) and it was simply too much work to maintain this option.
Not for whoever is in charge of the login-screen, apparently.

http://i.imgur.com/XrWYd.jpg
My bad; can you also post a screenshot showing the login screen with the bars turned off?

... of course you can't since there is no such option. And that's the point, it was too much maintenance to maintain the option. The login screen is very much a one-off custom-made window. In addition work is under way to move the login into the launcher and to get rid of the login screen.


wait... wasn't eve allready that way like... 5 years ago? Why are putting it back to the way it used to be? I'm confused CCP : (

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#57 - 2012-06-12 09:37:37 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Ravcharas wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
This 'widescreen' option was initially added way back to give the option of providing a more cinematic feel to EVE at a time when widescreen monitors were generally not available. Widescreen monitors are pretty much standard nowadays (1920x1080 and 1680x1050 are by far the most common full screen resolutions) and it was simply too much work to maintain this option.
Not for whoever is in charge of the login-screen, apparently.

http://i.imgur.com/XrWYd.jpg
My bad; can you also post a screenshot showing the login screen with the bars turned off?

... of course you can't since there is no such option. And that's the point, it was too much maintenance to maintain the option. The login screen is very much a one-off custom-made window. In addition work is under way to move the login into the launcher and to get rid of the login screen.
wait... wasn't eve allready that way like... 5 years ago? Why are putting it back to the way it used to be? I'm confused CCP : (
No, the login screen was simply smaller at the time but still a part of the same executable. We are now moving the login process into the launcher; a separate application that will handle patching, login and launching.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Adeena Torcfist
Right Hand Of The Legion.
Get Off My Lawn
#58 - 2012-06-12 10:13:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Adeena Torcfist
Its nice its finally gotten attention from someone in the office at least. Thanks for replying CCP Explorer, &, anyone that you have mentioned this to, or asigned to look into this, they are very welcome to post! i hope they do!

the Black bars in Widescreen sure made things easier. Surely even you ( or others in the office ) had used widescreen before. Did you like it or not like?

Remember, it was an option, so anyone not wanting it, they wouldnt be forced into having it enabled. The extra pan it gave helped, tho, i can just zoom out a little to give the same effect i guess.

Is it so hard to implement this on your test servers for testing by adding the black bars & reading the feedback?
rofflesausage
State War Academy
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-06-12 10:16:21 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Ravcharas wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
This 'widescreen' option was initially added way back to give the option of providing a more cinematic feel to EVE at a time when widescreen monitors were generally not available. Widescreen monitors are pretty much standard nowadays (1920x1080 and 1680x1050 are by far the most common full screen resolutions) and it was simply too much work to maintain this option.
Not for whoever is in charge of the login-screen, apparently.

http://i.imgur.com/XrWYd.jpg
My bad; can you also post a screenshot showing the login screen with the bars turned off?

... of course you can't since there is no such option. And that's the point, it was too much maintenance to maintain the option. The login screen is very much a one-off custom-made window. In addition work is under way to move the login into the launcher and to get rid of the login screen.
wait... wasn't eve allready that way like... 5 years ago? Why are putting it back to the way it used to be? I'm confused CCP : (
No, the login screen was simply smaller at the time but still a part of the same executable. We are now moving the login process into the launcher; a separate application that will handle patching, login and launching.


Am I going insane, or did it used to be like this when eve launched?
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-06-12 10:21:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Lin-Young Borovskova
I'd rather like to get rid of password fest and logofki fest each time you have to change char in the same account, witch is a bigger annoyance than how it looks in a gazillion x gazillion outdoor wide screen.

But I guess I will adapt (again) Lol

brb