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So You Want To Sell A Wormhole? A Frequent Explorers Guide.
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Tonali
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-04-28 02:15:05 UTC
+1

WTB Sticky
Drew Atlasxtype
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#22 - 2012-04-29 16:46:32 UTC
Big thanks to Ivory Kantenu for the wormhole I purchased from you, excellent service, fast and efficient , and also to Taggart for brokering the transaction.

Nice one folks thanks.

Drew
Ivory Kantenu
Apotheosis.
#23 - 2012-04-30 17:07:03 UTC
Drew Atlasxtype wrote:
Big thanks to Ivory Kantenu for the wormhole I purchased from you, excellent service, fast and efficient , and also to Taggart for brokering the transaction.

Nice one folks thanks.

Drew


o7

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Scoto Timta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-04-30 18:41:17 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
People who buy WHs have t be the laziest people in EVE.

People who buy minerals instead of mining them so that they are "free" have to be the laziest people in EVE.
People who buy ships instead of building them with their "free" minerals have to be the laziest people in EVE.
People who buy deadspace and officer's modules instead of running sites have to be the laziest people in EVE.

And just a note to the OP... Staticmapper is not your best option for determining the statics. It has a lot of bad/missing information. I use wormnav, which has been 100% accurate so far, and I expect it to continue that way since random people can't edit the entries and screw it up.
WolfeReign
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-05-01 10:45:38 UTC
I would Imagine that people would be willing to buy a WH with awesome PI planets some sort of effect and POCO's (that will be transfered) on every planet. other then that I see no reason to except laziness. Its easy enough to take a quick stint into wh space and find a decent system.
Ivory Kantenu
Apotheosis.
#26 - 2012-05-01 13:31:59 UTC
WolfeReign wrote:
I would Imagine that people would be willing to buy a WH with awesome PI planets some sort of effect and POCO's (that will be transfered) on every planet. other then that I see no reason to except laziness. Its easy enough to take a quick stint into wh space and find a decent system.


See:

Xanista wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
People who buy WHs have t be the laziest people in EVE.


I wouldn't say so. There are so many variables to wormholes, and people are often looking for specific types of wormholes, with certain statics, with certain effects. Finding that C3 Pulsar with a C4/HS static, unoccupied can take a long time even if you scan it yourself.


... Plus the money you make IN the wormhole is more than enough to cover the costs Lol


And...

Sidrun wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
People who buy WHs have t be the laziest people in EVE.


Not wanting to spend possibly weeks, trying to find the right wormhole, is hardly lazy. It's called smart. Think with your brain, not your brawn.

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Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#27 - 2012-05-01 19:00:06 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
People who buy WHs have t be the laziest people in EVE.


Confirming that I am pretty damn lazy and got a good deal on my corps hole. Came with packaged POS no less

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
Knug LiDi
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-05-01 20:58:34 UTC
I wonder what a C1 with hisec static, average PI, 9 planets, 72 moons, 9 POCOs, and 3 capital ships tossed in would run for ?

If only we could fall into a woman's arms

without falling into her hands
Ivory Kantenu
Apotheosis.
#29 - 2012-05-03 03:37:14 UTC
Knug LiDi wrote:
I wonder what a C1 with hisec static, average PI, 9 planets, 72 moons, 9 POCOs, and 3 capital ships tossed in would run for ?


Best way to honestly go about it, is factor in the costs of the Pocos, Caps, and what you think a fair base price on the available PI would be.

People will haggle with you a bit, so don't be surprised.

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Haulie Berry
#30 - 2012-05-03 04:01:43 UTC
Ivory Kantenu wrote:
Fr00b Snap wrote:
Good read, was looking for something like that. But how do you actually sell wormhole? Lets say you found empty hole that you want to sell, so next you write ad on forum etc Meanwhile are you just sitting in this wormhole or create alt for that or a lot of alts to be placeholders for all holes you find? And maybe can you give little bit more info which is good and which is bad PI?


This character sits in the Wormhole and waits for a buyer. I do have a main, however, this alt is my primary source of Income.



How do you handle the actual transaction? I sold a wormhole once. It was a one off. We discussed the logistics of the trade, decided the sum was too small to bother with escrow, and he ended up just trusting me with the payment up front. If I were going to make a habit of it, I think I would want a system of some sort.
Ivory Kantenu
Apotheosis.
#31 - 2012-05-03 04:20:31 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Ivory Kantenu wrote:
Fr00b Snap wrote:
Good read, was looking for something like that. But how do you actually sell wormhole? Lets say you found empty hole that you want to sell, so next you write ad on forum etc Meanwhile are you just sitting in this wormhole or create alt for that or a lot of alts to be placeholders for all holes you find? And maybe can you give little bit more info which is good and which is bad PI?


This character sits in the Wormhole and waits for a buyer. I do have a main, however, this alt is my primary source of Income.



How do you handle the actual transaction? I sold a wormhole once. It was a one off. We discussed the logistics of the trade, decided the sum was too small to bother with escrow, and he ended up just trusting me with the payment up front. If I were going to make a habit of it, I think I would want a system of some sort.


I personally work through the brokers 99% of the time. Theres a good amount of them out there, but the one I solely use is Taggart . I have done direct transactions, but I personally don't recommend doing them. Do NOT let people know where the Wormhole is, without some sort of transaction taking place first (Broker Deposits, half the payment). This way, should they choose to just blow you up, you'll know you're getting the isk anyway.

The way Taggart works is, they take the isk Payment for the Wormhole and hold it. They also require a 10% brokers fee, which is usually split between buyer and seller (Ive paid it in full once or twice for lower end sales, and I've had the buyer pay the whole brokers fee, all depends on the generosity).

Once the money has been verified as held, they'll let you know, and you can give the location to the Wormhole. I typically will just give the Solar System, and sit inside the Wormhole until theyre in Local. If theres enough time on the entrance (Status on the description is not 'Reaching End of Natural Lifetime'), I'll pop out and give them a Warp To so they can go right in and check it, while sitting outside. Otherwise they can probe the way in.

Oh, and if I'm sitting on the Wormhole for a few days, I'll start bookmarking sites in it for the potential buyer, just to be nice. Can them before I leave. ;)

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Pyx Jasta
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-05-03 17:44:17 UTC
I heartily endorse this product and or service
JRF86
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-05-07 17:44:58 UTC
Hey great guide. Also, bump.
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-05-20 23:18:28 UTC
Awesome post, you have my +1.

I tend to use Taggart too, but their brokers seem to be missing in action after the CSM elections and Lucius Arcturus left his CEO position.

Ivory Kantenu wrote:


Once the money has been verified as held, they'll let you know, and you can give the location to the Wormhole. I typically will just give the Solar System, and sit inside the Wormhole until theyre in Local. If theres enough time on the entrance (Status on the description is not 'Reaching End of Natural Lifetime'), I'll pop out and give them a Warp To so they can go right in and check it, while sitting outside. Otherwise they can probe the way in.

Oh, and if I'm sitting on the Wormhole for a few days, I'll start bookmarking sites in it for the potential buyer, just to be nice. Can them before I leave. ;)


What I usually do is bookmark the entrance, exit the wormhole and drop the BM into the closest station, then wait for the broker confirmation and send the bookmark to the buyer. That way I deny any chance of being blown up.
Hans Cherov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-05-22 13:34:47 UTC
I'm interested in this post and i'm returning into EVE.

When you post: Sell C3 WH with static in HighSec.

how know that is an static exit? and how know that it follow you into HighSec?


any cov ops is better for exploration? I can flight Caldari, Amarr and Minmatar.

for exploration in regular?

o7
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#36 - 2012-05-22 13:57:40 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
People who buy WHs have t be the laziest people in EVE.

I maintain a (short) list of corps/individuals who are looking for either specific holes, or a very particular type of hole. Some of them already live in wormholes and are looking to expand their operations or move. Regardless, on the rare occasion that I stumble into something they're looking for, I get paid a half-billion or more for doing that I was already doing anyway: exploring wormholes.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#37 - 2012-05-22 17:48:18 UTC
The article I always wanted to write but that always ended at the bottom of my priority list. Sad

Now linked (with permission) here!

http://www.wormholes.info
Ivory Kantenu
Apotheosis.
#38 - 2012-06-08 19:28:52 UTC
Ba-rump!

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Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-06-09 01:18:52 UTC
WolfeReign wrote:
I would Imagine that people would be willing to buy a WH with awesome PI planets some sort of effect and POCO's (that will be transfered) on every planet. other then that I see no reason to except laziness. Its easy enough to take a quick stint into wh space and find a decent system.

My last search to find a C5 or C6 with a C2 or C3 static took a month to find one that was unoccupied. Before when I was in a dedicated WH corp, we usually ended up spending 1-2 months looking for a new home each time we decided that it was time to move. Spending 500mil to have someone else find the WH for me instead of wasting an hour or so scanning every day for a month is a pretty good sounding investment to me...

-Arazel
Bibosikus
Air
#40 - 2012-06-10 11:15:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Bibosikus
WolfeReign wrote:
... Its easy damn hard enough to take a quick stint into wh space and find a an unoccupied decent system.



Fixed Blink

And another bump for a v good guide.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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