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Uinuva Karma
Doomheim
#41 - 2012-06-09 20:00:36 UTC
Disregard That wrote:

Because that sounds like incredibly useful content...Roll


Well you have to admit that it beats grinding L4s.

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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#42 - 2012-06-09 20:03:03 UTC
Working as intended. Released half finished to be abandoned for years just like any CCP feature.
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-06-09 20:04:06 UTC
Uinuva Karma wrote:
Disregard That wrote:

Because that sounds like incredibly useful content...Roll


Well you have to admit that it beats grinding L4s.

At least grinding L4's you have the remote chance for PVP interactions.

In the station? Not so much.

We don't need a PCU full of Barbieworld fanatics. That's my 2 ISK.
Uinuva Karma
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-06-09 20:11:58 UTC
I hear you.

However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?

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Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-06-09 20:13:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Disregard That
Uinuva Karma wrote:
I hear you.

However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?


Because it will hurt CCP's bottom line in the end. Those people would be taking up connection sockets that actual players could be connecting to - and enriching Eve.

I do not see any benefit coming from this development that would not be far outstripped by developing Flying In Space content instead.

Unless CCP can come up with some very compelling reasons for us to interact in stations...
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#46 - 2012-06-09 20:19:43 UTC
Disregard That wrote:
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Acot Voth wrote:
Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone!


I agree. The problem with Incarna was its complete and utter uselessness. Giving us avatars but no way to interact. Ha, ha! And starting with the most depressing looking CQ on top of it.

Anyway, common rooms should not be that hard to implement. Though I wonder how they will look like in Jita. Perhaps a queue!?
And corp/alliance separees. Perhaps an offical-looking meeting room where the managers can be important and show off their NEX clothes along with live feed to the regular corp-grunts´ CQ.

Because that sounds like incredibly useful content...Roll



More socializing certainly isn´t wrong in a MMO.

WiS is there, so why not finish it by giving it a purpose (a possibility to meet/show off your avatar)? That does not mean that the spaceship aspect becomes irrelevant or that CCP should not concentrate on in spaceships.

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Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-06-09 20:26:13 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Disregard That wrote:
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Acot Voth wrote:
Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone!


I agree. The problem with Incarna was its complete and utter uselessness. Giving us avatars but no way to interact. Ha, ha! And starting with the most depressing looking CQ on top of it.

Anyway, common rooms should not be that hard to implement. Though I wonder how they will look like in Jita. Perhaps a queue!?
And corp/alliance separees. Perhaps an offical-looking meeting room where the managers can be important and show off their NEX clothes along with live feed to the regular corp-grunts´ CQ.

Because that sounds like incredibly useful content...Roll



More socializing certainly isn´t wrong in a MMO.

WiS is there, so why not finish it by giving it a purpose (a possibility to meet/show off your avatar)? That does not mean that the spaceship aspect becomes irrelevant or that CCP should not concentrate on in spaceships.

Let's just assume there are a finite number of sockets available for connection to Eve.

Now let's assume that a bunch of people glut those sockets for this worthless content that adds nothing to actual gameplay.

Then let's assume that other people who actually want to play Eve can't connect due to the sockets being glutted by Barbieworlders.

Finally, let's ask those players' opinions of this scenario.

We want the majority of our PCU to be active pilots in space, not cybersexing isolationists completely divorced from the real game content.
EVE Roy Mustang
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-06-09 20:41:28 UTC  |  Edited by: EVE Roy Mustang
Uinuva Karma wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different.


I LoL'ed at the guy ignoring Plex for 9 years


I wonder, how does PLEX give you anything that isn't achievable through gameplay, again?


I wonder, how does AURUM give you anything that isn't achievable through gameplay, again?


Wheres the BPO for a monocle drop?

Disregard That wrote:

Just what CCP needs: Bandwidth being taken up by players who aren't even playing the game.

In larger numbers than what already happens.

The number of players online means nothing if we can't shoot most of them and they aren't buying spaceships.


Imagine the whine induced by WiS players the gankers cant kill lol
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#49 - 2012-06-09 21:04:42 UTC
Confirming that the Nobel exchange is dead. I cannot trade any of my Nobel prizes for anything in eve. The Noble Exchange on the other hand, is probably not doing terribly for something that literally gets no work these days.

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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#50 - 2012-06-09 21:10:21 UTC
Ugh, these GD forums. :(

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Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-06-09 21:14:12 UTC
Ah, the "No, you!" defense.

This works well at juvenile levels of the qq mocking game.

I think it runs out of oompf around age 4 though. Maybe 5 for late-bloomers.
Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-06-09 21:41:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbelo Valentinian
Disregard That wrote:
Uinuva Karma wrote:
I hear you.

However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?


Because it will hurt CCP's bottom line in the end. Those people would be taking up connection sockets that actual players could be connecting to - and enriching Eve.


But if CCP's aim for EVE is to build the ultimate s-f sim, then people doing that "useless" (in your eyes) content will be "enriching EVE."

And that's their stated ultimate aim, as shown even in the video that Hilmar linked in his "apology" letter.

So yes, they've sensibly re-trenched and are concentrating on FiS, but that's not going to last forever, and they'll be revisiting the avatar-based content a year or two down the line.

So you must be in the wrong game.

My sense is that even "hardcore" players would enjoy WiS content - so long as it's multiplayer and has a point. IIRC even Mittani was looking forward to it being good, and a needed new element for the game. The fiasco about Incarna partly arose because it was neither.
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#53 - 2012-06-09 21:43:21 UTC
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
Disregard That wrote:
Uinuva Karma wrote:
I hear you.

However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?


Because it will hurt CCP's bottom line in the end. Those people would be taking up connection sockets that actual players could be connecting to - and enriching Eve.


But if CCP's aim for EVE is to build the ultimate s-f sim, then people doing that "useless" (in your eyes) content will be "enriching EVE."

And that's their stated ultimate aim, as shown even in the video that Hilmar linked in his "apology" letter.

So yes, they've sensibly re-trenched and are concentrating on FiS, but that's not going to last forever, and they'll be revisiting the avatar-based content a year or two down the line.

So you must be in the wrong game.


People doing whatever doesn't destroy eve. What does destroy eve are those people who attempt to strong-arm CCP into fundamentally changing the game from its ruthless, cutthroat roots.

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Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2012-06-09 21:44:35 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:


People doing whatever doesn't destroy eve. What does destroy eve are those people who attempt to strong-arm CCP into fundamentally changing the game from its ruthless, cutthroat roots.


What, you mean the concept of "multiplayer Elite"? Big smile
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-06-09 21:45:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Disregard That
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
Disregard That wrote:
Uinuva Karma wrote:
I hear you.

However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?


Because it will hurt CCP's bottom line in the end. Those people would be taking up connection sockets that actual players could be connecting to - and enriching Eve.


But if CCP's aim for EVE is to build the ultimate s-f sim, then people doing that "useless" (in your eyes) content will be "enriching EVE."

And that's their stated ultimate aim, as shown even in the video that Hilmar linked in his "apology" letter.

So yes, they've sensibly re-trenched and are concentrating on FiS, but that's not going to last forever, and they'll be revisiting the avatar-based content a year or two down the line.

So you must be in the wrong game.

I'm willing to bet that if players can't connect to the available sockets due to cybersexing in stations (CiS) content, that the subs would probably take a pretty serious hit.

Tell yourself what you like, though.

Edit: Oops quoted the wrong post. Double edit: also fixed now.
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#56 - 2012-06-09 21:47:19 UTC
Disregard That wrote:
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
Disregard That wrote:
Uinuva Karma wrote:
I hear you.

However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?


Because it will hurt CCP's bottom line in the end. Those people would be taking up connection sockets that actual players could be connecting to - and enriching Eve.


But if CCP's aim for EVE is to build the ultimate s-f sim, then people doing that "useless" (in your eyes) content will be "enriching EVE."

And that's their stated ultimate aim, as shown even in the video that Hilmar linked in his "apology" letter.

So yes, they've sensibly re-trenched and are concentrating on FiS, but that's not going to last forever, and they'll be revisiting the avatar-based content a year or two down the line.

So you must be in the wrong game.

I'm willing to bet that if players can't connect to the available sockets due to cybersexing in stations (CiS) content, that the subs would probably take a pretty serious hit.

Tell yourself what you like, though.

Edit: Oops quoted the wrong post.


My bad, I didn't realize we were talking about FiS (******* in Stations) that would probably hurt eve to a point.

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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#57 - 2012-06-09 21:48:05 UTC
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:


People doing whatever doesn't destroy eve. What does destroy eve are those people who attempt to strong-arm CCP into fundamentally changing the game from its ruthless, cutthroat roots.


What, you mean the concept of "multiplayer Elite"? Big smile


What are you trying to say?

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Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-06-09 22:02:27 UTC
Disregard That wrote:
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I'm willing to bet that if players can't connect to the available sockets due to cybersexing in stations (CiS) content, that the subs would probably take a pretty serious hit.

Tell yourself what you like, though.


I doubt CCP are unaware of the problems improving the game might bring - and yet strangely, they still hew to the idea of the "ultimate s-f sim".
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-06-09 22:07:34 UTC
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
Disregard That wrote:
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I'm willing to bet that if players can't connect to the available sockets due to cybersexing in stations (CiS) content, that the subs would probably take a pretty serious hit.

Tell yourself what you like, though.


I doubt CCP are unaware of the problems improving the game might bring - and yet strangely, they still hew to the idea of the "ultimate s-f sim".


They may say so.

But I'm watching what they do not what they say.
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#60 - 2012-06-09 22:07:46 UTC
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
Disregard That wrote:
[
I'm willing to bet that if players can't connect to the available sockets due to cybersexing in stations (CiS) content, that the subs would probably take a pretty serious hit.

Tell yourself what you like, though.


I doubt CCP are unaware of the problems improving the game might bring - and yet strangely, they still hew to the idea of the "ultimate s-f sim".



I don't think CCP had sexual deviants in mind when they designed EVE.

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