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Rengerel en Distel
#41 - 2012-06-09 14:29:36 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
Just get into a Wormhole, I never hear any of this crap in there ^_^


The OP will even sell you one he found with offline POSs and guns!

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

Commit Sudoku
Perkone
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-06-09 14:43:58 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
I've never even heard of Solar Fleet or Intrepid Crossing before.

Intrepid Crossing?
InternetSpaceship
State War Academy
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-06-09 15:11:42 UTC  |  Edited by: InternetSpaceship
baltec1 wrote:
Pax Deltari wrote:
All right. So they just don't have any ships? So they can't attack the north?


They all lack the funds, the ships, the pilots, the leadership, the logistics and the willpower to wage a large scale war.


No, all together, they could do it, but they won't. They all want Someone Else to do it. They don't want to put up their own resources or time, that's someone else's job. "Why won't someone else save us? Why do people expect us to do it ourselves?"

Hate us all you like, but goons and their allies treat each other far better than you pubbies treat each other. Newbies are showered in free isk just for asking, and given free ships to lose repeatedly to build up pvp skill without breaking the bank. Anyone can FC a fleet as long as they can get enough drunken assholes to gang up with them, and no one is required to do anything if they don't want to.

Because of that, we actually are able to organize and work together. If you Empire dorks ever figure that out, you'll be able to band together and finally run us out of Eve.

If every corp that hated GoonSwarm banded together against us, we'd be completely overwhelmed. We wouldn't stand a shadow of a chance.

I'm so doubtful that will ever happen, though, that I'm willing to come in here and spell out exactly how you can beat us.

Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.

If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.  If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#44 - 2012-06-09 15:13:20 UTC
Commit Sudoku wrote:
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
I've never even heard of Solar Fleet or Intrepid Crossing before.

Intrepid Crossing?


Welped-Fleets-R-US

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-06-09 21:02:40 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Thank you for the map and information, Cass Lie.

As someone new to the game who knows little to nothing about null, the picture this forums paints is that 90% of null-space is held by Goon and Friends while every other null corporation is desperately clutching a small bit of land. I've never even heard of Solar Fleet or Intrepid Crossing before.



Nah there is all sorts of space out here.

However, you can't just roll in and wave a finger and start ratting, someone is going to swing by and kick over your sandcastle.

Guess I'll start in the North east.

The DRF is no more (in fact xXDeathXx actually disbanded) Solar holds the majority of the drone regions. IRC sits in Cobalt Edge mining (yes,mining rorques and orcas and hulks and all) and ratting and getting dropped in on constantly by everyone that can get a titan to a POS even relatively close. NC. Sits between Solar and the CFC playing politics to keep their space, essentially this is the Tech Bropact, they shoot each other occasionally, but that is generally where it ends. They have to walk a fine line. Pissing off Solar traditionally isn't good for business, and the CFC can pound away with numbers that It takes pretty much the rest of the map to match.

The CFC, well they are the CFC, put 5 ships on a gate camp, in their space and the response fleet is likely to be triple digit, move in a real fleet and they flood the system with three full 256 man fleets, match that and people are btching and moaning all the way across the cluster about the TiDi. GSF, TEST, RZR, LAWN, SMA, Fatal Assention....all under one umbrella

South of TEST, you find the Thunderdome, Delve, its an oddbal mix of sov and NPS space, and as such extremely hard to hold, because anyone that can put or gain access to a POS can jump in and move around. RA (was) Trying to kick Nulli adn Vera Cruze out, Nulli/VC were waving both fingers in the air with a big old FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU and in came PL, after PL got whacked around a bit they brought in their favorite meatshields TEST and Nulli and RA blued up to try to get rid of the interlopers interfering with their scrap.

Such is life.

Further east you have a pack of regions like Period Basis that are logistic nightmares to live in, but people do, they are usually loosely aligned with -A-, the Southern bloc is generally -A-, ROL, Nulli, FAIL, En Gaurde and SE. All of whom may be blue or neutral.....depending on what is happening.

The map is pretty quiet compared to the beginning of the year, White Noise was steamrolled by the CFC, XdeathX is no more, Raiden had a relatively spectacular fall from grace....

We go and poke at the Goons, and they (much more rarely) come down and give us a visit, but there hasn't been any real serious business stuff (for us anyway) since we booted RA and Co the hell out of Detroid.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#46 - 2012-06-09 21:05:42 UTC
Major Killz wrote:
One alliance was going to be on top sooner or later. Game over. Time to press the restart button?


CFC is not the first superpower.
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#47 - 2012-06-09 21:13:15 UTC
Oh you know so little... test is blue with goons... thats 14,000 people about... + TONS of other blues...

Greed drives everything... in eve... blueing almost all of null gives you risk free isk... this covers greed... now you need fun cause all the money in the world is nice but you need "fun"

Fun now comes in the forum of being a bully to HS miners...

look at almost all wars... one of two ways they were won

MASSIVE money

Hit and run.

Well in eve... hit and run does not work, you can't keep hitting an area till you own it because of timers and the like... this leaves us with money

When you can throw tons and tons and tons of people at something... how do you lose?

cfc can lose the isk numbers in any fight... they are making so much passive isk... it does not matter.

Look at the cold war how did the USA win?

Out spent russia.
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#48 - 2012-06-09 21:15:19 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
Pax Deltari wrote:
All right. So they just don't have any ships? So they can't attack the north?


They're talking to each other, not to you. In terms of appealing to null sec corps to go after Goonswarm, the null sec corps have their own agenda and don't really care about high sec. Nor should they. But sooner or later somebody will go after Goonswarm territory. Probably the Goons will still be here posting while their systems are in flames.


Actually, the other nullsec alliances did come after us, and then got curbstomped, and now are milking the sweet, sweet tech teat for all they can.

Self-appointed forums hallway monitor Ask me about La Maison and what it means for you! http://bit.ly/LTW5gW These wardec rules are not in place for our protection. They're in place for yours.

Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-06-09 21:16:18 UTC
adam smash wrote:
Oh you know so little... test is blue with goons... thats 14,000 people about... + TONS of other blues...

Greed drives everything... in eve... blueing almost all of null gives you risk free isk... this covers greed... now you need fun cause all the money in the world is nice but you need "fun"

Fun now comes in the forum of being a bully to HS miners...

look at almost all wars... one of two ways they were won

MASSIVE money

Hit and run.

Well in eve... hit and run does not work, you can't keep hitting an area till you own it because of timers and the like... this leaves us with money

When you can throw tons and tons and tons of people at something... how do you lose?

cfc can lose the isk numbers in any fight... they are making so much passive isk... it does not matter.

Look at the cold war how did the USA win?

Out spent russia.

One could not bully HS miners if they only follow the incredibly good advice of routine forum posters everywhere.

But crying is easier than making some tactical bookmarks around your ratting field of choice and mining aligned and at the keyboard.

Blowing up people who are obviously AFK in space is not bullying.

It's a value-added service.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#50 - 2012-06-09 21:16:22 UTC
adam smash wrote:
Oh you know so little... test is blue with goons... thats 14,000 people about... + TONS of other blues...

Greed drives everything... in eve... blueing almost all of null gives you risk free isk... this covers greed... now you need fun cause all the money in the world is nice but you need "fun"

Fun now comes in the forum of being a bully to HS miners...

look at almost all wars... one of two ways they were won

MASSIVE money

Hit and run.

Well in eve... hit and run does not work, you can't keep hitting an area till you own it because of timers and the like... this leaves us with money

When you can throw tons and tons and tons of people at something... how do you lose?

cfc can lose the isk numbers in any fight... they are making so much passive isk... it does not matter.

Look at the cold war how did the USA win?

Out spent russia.


The NC was bigger. It lost.
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#51 - 2012-06-09 21:16:31 UTC
adam smash wrote:
Oh you know so little... test is blue with goons... thats 14,000 people about... + TONS of other blues...

Greed drives everything... in eve... blueing almost all of null gives you risk free isk... this covers greed... now you need fun cause all the money in the world is nice but you need "fun"

Fun now comes in the forum of being a bully to HS miners...

look at almost all wars... one of two ways they were won

MASSIVE money

Hit and run.

Well in eve... hit and run does not work, you can't keep hitting an area till you own it because of timers and the like... this leaves us with money

When you can throw tons and tons and tons of people at something... how do you lose?

cfc can lose the isk numbers in any fight... they are making so much passive isk... it does not matter.

Look at the cold war how did the USA win?

Out spent russia.


Soz for enjoying shooting your people while your people shoot rocks, m8. o7

Self-appointed forums hallway monitor Ask me about La Maison and what it means for you! http://bit.ly/LTW5gW These wardec rules are not in place for our protection. They're in place for yours.

Regent Magnus
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-06-09 21:46:21 UTC
I miss the NC. It did pretty much the same thing as CFC, but at least you could join it.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-06-09 21:47:08 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:


Soz for enjoying shooting your people while your people shoot rocks, m8. o7


In before he counters with the canned "without us a rifter would cost 100 billion isk" argument.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-06-09 21:47:42 UTC
I got into the CFC easily enough.

Hell, I was actually invited.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#55 - 2012-06-09 21:47:44 UTC
Regent Magnus wrote:
I miss the NC. It did pretty much the same thing as CFC, but at least you could join it.


As a former NC member let me tell you that my main issue with them was the fact they post ponies.

I don't like ponies.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Doctor Benway Kado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-06-09 22:01:11 UTC
Regent Magnus wrote:
I miss the NC. It did pretty much the same thing as CFC, but at least you could join it.

There are member corps in the Goonswarm, TEST, FA, and Razor alliances that all publicly recruit - PonyWaffe, from what I understand, recruits directly from Eve-Uni, for instance. GoonWaffe is not Goonswarm Federation, and Goonswarm Federation is not the CFC, and the CFC is not the Tech Bropact.

We just get all the attention :smug:
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-06-09 22:02:46 UTC
Doctor Benway Kado wrote:
Regent Magnus wrote:
I miss the NC. It did pretty much the same thing as CFC, but at least you could join it.

There are member corps in the Goonswarm, TEST, FA, and Razor alliances that all publicly recruit - PonyWaffe, from what I understand, recruits directly from Eve-Uni, for instance. GoonWaffe is not Goonswarm Federation, and Goonswarm Federation is not the CFC, and the CFC is not the Tech Bropact.

We just get all the attention :smug:

Well, you guys do have both Villy and Boat...
Pax Deltari
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-06-10 06:11:16 UTC
I'm glad everyone posted in here. I understand things a lot more now. A special thanks to all the memebers of Null sec alliances who gave light on this topic. Good luck on the ALiiance tournament!
ISD LoneLynx
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-06-10 08:49:55 UTC
Trolling. Locked.

ISD LoneLynx Lieutenant Support Team and Resources [STAR] Interstellar Services Department

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