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Is the Nobel Exchange a dead donky ?

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Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-06-09 16:21:06 UTC
Solhild wrote:
I hope it is soundly killed and the content goes to player industry/sandbox - including ship skins Smile

Ships skins will -if they are coming at all- only be available via NeX store.
This is guaranteed, because this is the thing that could make the most money for CCP. In fact, if they stay true to not introducing P2W, this is currently the only thing that could generate a noticeable income.

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.

Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-06-09 16:30:22 UTC
The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#23 - 2012-06-09 16:36:10 UTC
Lady Bloodsucker wrote:
[...] Is it completely dead. [...]


I certainly bloody-well hope so!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-06-09 16:37:09 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different.


I LoL'ed at the guy ignoring Plex for 9 years
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-06-09 18:11:50 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different.


Uh... you do know a different ship skin won´t make your ship stronger or faster or anything that could help you with the game?
So how it is P2W?
I think you are confused...

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.

Mirajane Cromwell
#26 - 2012-06-09 18:36:04 UTC
When they put Dust BPOs/BPCs to NeX store and we'll get to milk ISK from Dustmites you'll wish you had more free Aurum to buy those BPOs/BPCs... Roll
EVE Roy Mustang
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-06-09 18:40:40 UTC  |  Edited by: EVE Roy Mustang
We can hope. The only time Ive ever used it was with the free points they gave me

Mirajane Cromwell wrote:
When they put Dust BPOs/BPCs to NeX store and we'll get to milk ISK from Dustmites you'll wish you had more free Aurum to buy those BPOs/BPCs... Roll


Dunno, I think the resulting exodus of players from the game would make them worthless.
If theres noone here to buy the stuff...
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#28 - 2012-06-09 18:41:53 UTC
Considering amount of players who left the game after monoclegeddon those new clothes will be unavailable for years because

a) during last couple years CCP almost abandoned EVE;

b) most likely NeX is a taboo now and

c) considering insane prices of present semi-ugly pixelclothing in NeX I guess those not-so-ugly pieces cost $50-200 in aurum equivalent and their appearance within the game will spark yet another monoclegeddon while CCP's "greed is good" management can't just let them go for like 1-2k aurums.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-06-09 18:43:14 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different.


I LoL'ed at the guy ignoring Plex for 9 years


I wonder, how does PLEX give you anything that isn't achievable through gameplay, again?

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-06-09 18:54:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Richard Desturned wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different.


I LoL'ed at the guy ignoring Plex for 9 years


I wonder, how does PLEX give you anything that isn't achievable through gameplay, again?

WoT gold can be accumulated through regular gameplay, too.

TF2 MT items also drop via regular play and can be traded with other players.

Turbine Points in LOTRO can be earned via in-game achievements.

It's pretty common to make any gameplay affecting items that you want to sell via MTs (in the case of CCP - everything) also available through (excruciatingly painful) in-game grinds - guess it puts players' minds at ease with rgds to "fairness" and makes picking up the game easier to rationalize ("I won't have to spend any money on this if I don't want to").

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Yabba Addict
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-06-09 18:55:22 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different.


I LoL'ed at the guy ignoring Plex for 9 years



This? Again? Really?

1. Plex hasn't been around for nine years, more like 3-4

2. P2W is a completely different system, where the game is free while offering what EvE residents have come to call 'Gold Ammo' for cash, giving you an unfair advantage.

3. I can make any isk i could've bought with plex in any number of ways, all I need to do is put in the hours. P2W, as mentioned above, means no matter how long I grind, I'll be at a disadvantage.

TLDR?
Plex isn't P2W, it's pay to save me time, which makes sense considering the game is aimed at an adult playerbase, many of which have jobs, family, and responsibilities.
Uinuva Karma
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-06-09 18:59:20 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different.


I LoL'ed at the guy ignoring Plex for 9 years


I wonder, how does PLEX give you anything that isn't achievable through gameplay, again?


I wonder, how does AURUM give you anything that isn't achievable through gameplay, again?

Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec. 

Acot Voth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-06-09 19:00:55 UTC
Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone!
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-06-09 19:01:40 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different.

Because textures are clearly p2w and faster advancement rolled into one non-functional package.

Also, Plex. And before that, GTCs were directly available by ISK.

So you're a little late on the p2w tip, kiddo.
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-06-09 19:02:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Disregard That
Acot Voth wrote:
Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone!

Just what CCP needs: Bandwidth being taken up by players who aren't even playing the game.

In larger numbers than what already happens.

The number of players online means nothing if we can't shoot most of them and they aren't buying spaceships.
Viktor Goldheart
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-06-09 19:07:52 UTC
Suvari Khashour wrote:
Lady Bloodsucker wrote:
It has been a very long time since I have seen any new stuff on the Nobel Exchange. Is it completely dead. Is there any news about the Nobel Exchange or ?. On the market I see a lot of different clothing in many different colours. When is all this apparel going so be available.

Roll



i think i can count on one hand the number of times i've even looked at that since it was introduced.... Ugh


Sure feels like it.

And yeah, I agree.
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-06-09 19:08:24 UTC
Lady Bloodsucker wrote:
It has been a very long time since I have seen any new stuff on the Nobel Exchange. Is it completely dead. Is there any news about the Nobel Exchange or ?. On the market I see a lot of different clothing in many different colours. When is all this apparel going so be available.

Roll

Donkeys are useful. The Noble Exchange is a dead cockroach.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#38 - 2012-06-09 19:57:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerath Naaris
Acot Voth wrote:
Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone!


I agree. The problem with Incarna was its complete and utter uselessness. Giving us avatars but no way to interact. Ha, ha! And starting with the most depressing looking CQ on top of it.

Anyway, common rooms should not be that hard to implement. Though I wonder how they will look like in Jita. Perhaps a queue!?
And corp/alliance separees. Perhaps a War Room where the managers can be important and show off their NEX clothes along with live feed to the regular corp-grunts´ CQ.

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Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-06-09 19:58:28 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Acot Voth wrote:
Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone!


I agree. The problem with Incarna was its complete and utter uselessness. Giving us avatars but no way to interact. Ha, ha! And starting with the most depressing looking CQ on top of it.

Anyway, common rooms should not be that hard to implement. Though I wonder how they will look like in Jita. Perhaps a queue!?
And corp/alliance separees. Perhaps an offical-looking meeting room where the managers can be important and show off their NEX clothes along with live feed to the regular corp-grunts´ CQ.

Because that sounds like incredibly useful content...Roll
Moonasha
Orcses and Goblinz
#40 - 2012-06-09 19:59:14 UTC
AUR was a mistake period, and I hope CCP takes it out eventually. Noble Exchange is fine, but the **** should cost isk. As it is, it alienates too much of the playerbase. Pay to play while you play to play....