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New dev blog: EVE updating - Winter expansion 2011

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Karlos Zhang
Kraken Industries
#281 - 2011-10-06 02:12:18 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
BLACK OPS

REMOVE LOCAL (Remember your super cool video of the Russian fleet jumping in and asking if they were detected? Well that's bullshit due to local).

Could you imagine running into a HUGE fleet while hopping around due to NO local?

oh it makes me wet.

PSST Black Ops doesn't work DUE TO LOCAL


That would be awesome. In station or station to station in system would be cool, though.
OT Smithers
A Farewell To Kings...
Dock Workers
#282 - 2011-10-06 02:22:00 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Phey Onat wrote:
There are alot of items promised in this blog.

Let's see how many make it to patch notes.


Actually, as far a development is concerned, there are zero promises in the Blog.

They gave you their working priorities list, and the items on it may or may not make it into next expansion.

They made this abundantly clear.

If something doesn't make it into the next expansion for whatever reason, I don't want to hear tired "broken promises" or "not what you say but what you do" memes.


These are things they believe the players want. If they fail to deliver (as I expect, based on their track record) I kinda doubt the players are gonna give them a pass just because they inserted a few disclaimers. CCP is pretty much out of chances with almost everyone.
OT Smithers
A Farewell To Kings...
Dock Workers
#283 - 2011-10-06 02:24:46 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
I will put forth that I hope electronic attack ships are not forgotten. Straight



No worries mate, a fix for EAF's was promised a year ago.
Karlos Zhang
Kraken Industries
#284 - 2011-10-06 02:28:26 UTC
Raven Aldura wrote:
Vaako Horizon wrote:
stuff
I am sorry if you were offended. in all honest I was simply asking. :D


Fair enough. I was hinging my continued subscription on WIS. If that was smart can certainly be debated (and I would likely lose that debate). I think I am the kind of person that gets excited by the future when I should be enjoying the present. Like a sports fan whose team is winning and all I can think about is next years team.

Still, I really feel I need to better connect with my avatar to enjoy the game. Perhaps this is a personal failing, but I want to love EVE. I really do, and I think we can all agree on this point, even if we get there different ways.


Personally, I think the promise of Incarna is huge for many players. In fact, I think it opens EvE up to entirely different types of players (and additional subs). Some people just need that physical presence to get a full sense of immersion. Getting the in-game voice to be positionally aware would add a whole new dynamic to personal interaction. There are some amazing things that can be done with voice modulation to help.

I could imagine that there would be some people that could be perfectly happy playing the game and rarely leaving the station.
Debir Achen
Makiriemi Holdings
#285 - 2011-10-06 02:57:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Debir Achen
Slightly leery of "new ships" (see Hillmar's post), as opposed to fixing issues with current ships. When a new ship is introduced, there's the risk of making others into non-options.

That said, there are some obvious opportunities in the destroyer space:
- caldari T1 missile DD
- gallente T1 drone DD
- amarr T1 useful DD
- "assault ship" style T2 DD

And there might be similar options in other spaces (brainstorm: DD or frig sized logi, non-Caldari EW battleship). But I'd prefer to see filling of obvious holes (especially where it provides interesting intermediate steps) than fantastic new ships that obsolete existing ones.


Also, would love to see a version of the AML that works with battleships and Heavy Missiles.

Aren't Caldari supposed to have a large signature?
Flamespar
WarRavens
#286 - 2011-10-06 03:20:07 UTC
So no multiplayer establishments for Incarna. WTF?
Chiralos
Chiral's Angels
#287 - 2011-10-06 03:39:25 UTC
That's certainly good list of things to look forward to. There are two other really major pieces of work not there - the nullsec sov revamp, and more Incarna stuff.

I want it all, of course. But, if you can't deliver a polished version of Incarna establishments this Winter, let it go this time around and tell us about it. We can wait.

Similarly for the nullsec sov update. It's a big complicated job. If you can identify a set of changes that are (a) balanced by themselves, (b) an improvement on the status quo, and (c) are going in long-term direction you want, go for it. If not, tell us your plans.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#288 - 2011-10-06 03:49:05 UTC  |  Edited by: MeBiatch
to all the dolts who dont understand "new" ewar drones means... its called tech II...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
#289 - 2011-10-06 04:44:22 UTC
I just scared everyone in the office by yelling :"FU*K YEAH!" at the top of my voice.
So glad I'm training hybrids already.
Courthouse
Perkone
Caldari State
#290 - 2011-10-06 04:58:11 UTC
Quote:
(7:43:11 PM) courthouse: hey, and **** zulu too
(7:45:48 PM) courthouse: ****** posts 12 things that might maybe get into something equating to a sort of semi expansion sometime in the near, but not too near, future but definitely before christmas, just don't hold him to that, where of the 12 items 4 things are for spaceships and 8 are either fixing features they intentionally broke or addressing **** that no one gives a **** about
(7:46:05 PM) courthouse: **** that guy
Shameless Shamus
Cherry Defense Systems
The Initiative.
#291 - 2011-10-06 05:05:37 UTC
Quote:
A significant part of that plan is the immediate refocusing of all the EVE development teams on EVE’s core gameplay: spaceships.


/me does a little dance!

Internet spaceship pew pew game gets some lovin'! w00t!
Will DestroyYou
#292 - 2011-10-06 05:09:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Will DestroyYou
Ivana Twinkle wrote:
I'm still wondering how hybrids can be fixed... By removing them altogether? :toot:


Remove them and fix drones and missiles.


* Faster missiles; so they are useable in PVP because they hit before the ship warps away.
* Drones that can warp with their owner so you can use them more then once before being out of ammo.

Who needs hybrids?
Crunac Arclight
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#293 - 2011-10-06 05:18:11 UTC
I r excite.
GatoOFruits
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#294 - 2011-10-06 05:35:06 UTC
CCP Solomon wrote:
This thread makes me happy.


Good stuff and glad to see you dropping by. Now as you are around I have a quick question: I have a couple of EAF in my hangar, do you want to buy them back or should I wait until you fix this whole ship class?
Silath Slyver Silverpine
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#295 - 2011-10-06 06:03:22 UTC
This is a good start, and I look forward to seeing if you can deliver. Even half the things on the list would be nice.

Admitting that stuff happens and you may not be able to fix ALL THE THINGS :P Is a wise move. It's fine to build people hopes up, as long as it's cautious and realistic. The reason we've burned CCP in the past so much is you promise too much, that you have no way of delivering on.

It's better to promise little and deliver little, than promise much and deliver nothing.
Ender Sai
Perkone
Caldari State
#296 - 2011-10-06 06:24:15 UTC
I came, I saw.

I came.

Although, I hope you guys aren't being too ambitious again. That's a serious list. Unless you've been sneaking in some serious planning all these years that you've never implemented. :P

That being said. Hybrid buff = FTW!
Murdah
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#297 - 2011-10-06 06:32:33 UTC
Finally, this makes me happy. Good to see our future in this game is once again being considered! :)
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
#298 - 2011-10-06 06:37:18 UTC
I think I craped a rail gun when I saw Hybird Weapons to be looked at.Shocked

And then I know my heart stopped when on the second line Fraction Warfare to be fixed. I had to run and look at my cander to check and see if I lost a few months some were and it was Apirl 1st again or something.

Hellz Ya!!!!!

Is it a rock point a lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship point a lazer at it and profit. I dont see any problems here.
Garia666
CyberShield Inc
HYDRA RELOADED
#299 - 2011-10-06 06:38:43 UTC


New T2 modules has my intrest tough also the new ewar drones.
Hawkwar
M.I.M.M.S
#300 - 2011-10-06 06:46:58 UTC
Cautiously optimistic.... promises have been made before and forgotten. See if you do matches what you say.....hard as the disclaimer at the bottom says they may not do anything.....