Ships & Modules

Most players here asks for best ship fit, but most pvp in eve outside ganking is fleet based. Since not every corp or alliance can field goon equivalent fleets, pure numbers alone doesn't assure victory.

So i want pose a question, what is currently the best subcap fleet composition for a low sec gate camp?

And conversely, what is the best subcap counter? Hypothetically, you want to help get a trapped freighter out of a gate camped lowsec system without stations, how would you rescue it and break a camp? (sort of kobyiashi maru scenario).

or be a decent human/pvper and don't gate camp.

That would satisfy the "save the trapped freighter" requirement.

How many pilots? what's their level of activity? (and boredom threshold) and what's the space like?

I've seen successful camps made up of all manner of ships, from a heavy 'dictor, drake and sniping 'nado to Bhaalgorns and Mach's and camps with Carriers on standby... Not to mention Sniggerdly's "Yay for Warp to Zero" camp and its eye-watering list of kills.

Most people camping a lowsec gate can't bring together a Sniggerdly sized fleet and keep it together, few lowsec gates will be able to hold Faction BS regularly without someone decides to have a go at killing them just to see them go boom (and, ideally, FRAPS the encounter)...

On the other side of the coin; it takes a lot of research to try to determine how many Falcons might be cloaked up or logoffski'd around a Faction BS gate camp, a Sniggerdly style camp will see traffic (and therefore get kills) and therefore be difficult to bore off a gate (and all but impossible to fight off) because no matter how many warnings you might attempt to give in Local on the highsec side there will always be people who think that they can get through it (some because they really believe their ship can tank dozens of BS simultaneously, some because they think their Blockade Runner or CovOps is uncatchable, some because they didn't see your warnings and declined your convo, and some because they really believe they're safe because they haven't done anything to the pirates and are just minding their own business)...

In terms of getting a freighter out...
I'd want a CovOps in system for a start, eyes on the camp should never be underestimated and if those two people in system are ratting in belts out of D-Scan range of the station then they aren't sitting at a pounce point waiting for their scout to tell them something's happening.
Ideally they'd also create an insta-undock for the freighter but we'll get to that later...
Given the choice I'd also add a Daredevil or Cruor, ideally in corp with the freighter but if the freighter matters enough then with a pilot who's willing to lose some sec status...

Needless to say, these ships aren't fighting their way through the camp, but they might be able to choose the right time to get the freighter out in one piece.

Incidentally, to the poster above, sometimes you have to use a freighter, even if for no other reason than not having access to a Jump Freighter (although perhaps Black Frog Logistics are a better option in that case).

That's like playing Starcraft and refusing to use choke points because you consider them cheap.

Smartbombing battleships with logistics, some gank fit battlecruisers , decent Falcon and Lachesis pilots

5000 Ibis and a remote sebo'd broadsword.

lol negative ten.

Lol, someone give me some FoF HAMs and five drakes with Warrior IIs

The ECM iis a big problem for fleets trying to break a camp, but it is also the biggest advantage of maintaining a camp.

Also, whoever advised the HIC, you know you can't bubble in lowsec right, so wouldn't that just be a heavy tackler, which I think Force Recons do better in the Arazu and Rapier combo I thought there would a lot more Recons in the gate camp set ups, not expensive tech 3's. Very interesting.

Yep it's no brainer Elite pvp