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Somewhat confused by what can be done with an Alt on the same account
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Peri Simone
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-06-08 01:25:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Peri Simone
My main lives in lowsec and has outlaw status, so I can be attacked by any player without CONCORD, gate or station response, and if I fly into highsec space I'm automatically a target for faction police.

My same account alts are highsec based, with a small range of trading and hauling skills that didn't take very long to train, and keep me supplied with ships and modules that would be difficult or expensive to get hold of otherwise. They also fund most of my pvp activity (crime pays, but really badly).

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-06-08 03:57:00 UTC
Alts are extremely useful when you're flying Jump Freighters or capital ships. I have three characters on my alt account to light cynos for my main, and three characters on my main account to light cynos for my alts. It takes about a week to train for basic cyno operation, not a big loss in terms of training time.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#23 - 2012-06-08 04:11:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
I have 7 accounts so a lot of alts. One of those accounts is dedicated to just training alts! When trained, I transfer the character to one of the other accounts.

* Manufacturing alts.
* Research alts.
* Mining alts.
* No-skill price checking alts.
* No-skill scouting alts.
* No-skill forum posting alts.
* No-skill corp role testing alt.
* Trading alts.
* Cyno alts.
* Hauling alts (I have one that can pilot any industrial, but nothing else).
* Probing alts.
* Salvage alts.
* POS gunner alts.
* Management (corp CEO, alliance holding corp CEO).
* PvP alts (example: frigate alt, BC alt, SB alt).

You can also buy characters from the Character Bazaar to fill your collection of alts.
malaire
#24 - 2012-06-08 09:53:06 UTC
Jonas Altol wrote:
  • The courier that accepts the contract can steal my goods, so I have to set up collateral to be at least my final sell price, discouraging most couriers in the process (because they will have to put up a lot of dough for very little gain).
    • e.g. Push Industries will move cargo in highsec for 400,000 ISK per jump, with upto 1 billion ISK collateral. Red Frog Freight has similar prices. You don't need to care that "most" pilots might ignore your contract when there are courier corporations who do not ignore it.

    For trading I have main in Dodixie and alt in Jita. When I bought items in Jita with my alt, which I wanted to sell in Dodixie, I used to contract them to my main, then autopilot to Jita (with empty cargo) and then manually fly them back. But this took so much time that in the end I decided to use courier services. In my opinion 400,000 ISK per jump for 1 billion ISK cargo is dirt cheap.

    Jonas Altol wrote:
  • The courier will know what is inside the crate and where it's going, making my trade item and route visible to himself and others.

    • That doesn't sound like a good marketing opportunity, unless I am missing something.

    Yes, there is that risk. However when you make private contract to courier corporation (e.g. Push Industries), only they will be able to see the route, and I believe only person who accepts it will be able to see contents.

    I did not want to use public contracts because then anyone would've been able to see just how much I transport and on what routes. Using private contracts solved that. And I decided that I can live with the risk that person taking it will check what it contains.

    ps. I started with same-account Jita-alt, but later when my trading activies increased I switched to using Jita-alt on 2nd account.

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    Tobey Darkness
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #25 - 2012-06-08 12:04:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobey Darkness
    There are three characterslots on each account for a reason.
    Alts in Eve work the same way as alts in other MMOs with the difference that you have only three slots in Eve and eight or ten in other MMOs. And like you can not level more than one character at a time in other games, you can not train more than one charakter at a time in eve.
    Alts are used for things, your main character can't do. Some people like to specialize their characters. Some people have one char for null, one for high sec. Some people do griefing and scamming with one and be friendly and helpful with the other.

    In other games one character is skilled for a special crafting profession, one character is used for ninjalooting, one for being the tank and one for being the healer. And you can only train / level one at a time.

    I have my main char with a large amount of skillpoints. It costs a lot to buy new clones when the character dies. So I have made a new character for pvp only. Low skillpoints, low clonecosts but still able to compete in fleetfights. New ships and money are supplied by my main who does PI, Missioning and Mining.

    I don't see a reason to have more than one account and seven really seems to be an overkill.
    When I need a scout, hauler or someone who keeps the gankers off my miningship, I ask a corpmate to help out. Makes a lot more fun than doing it alone.

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    Major Trant
    Brutor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #26 - 2012-06-08 16:26:17 UTC
    I normally run with two account, but recently I sent myself a buddy invite and set up a third account. I got 21 days free game time on the new account and paid for another 60 days, but got a free Plex redeemed on my main account which covered 30 of those days. In addition, my new account received a Celebral Accellerator which I sold for 320M Isk, almost the price of a Plex at the time.

    So in effect those 81 days of training time cost me virtually nothing, but I ended up with a Charon pilot whom I then transfered into one of my alt slots on this account and shut down the new account.

    I don't use my Charon pilot very often but when I do she is incredibly useful and has made me a lot of money on some big trade deals that needed a Charon hauling capability. Not to mention just moving my own gear when it was time to move house.

    Of course I could have trained my main character up to fly a Charon, but there is no way I would put this character into a Charon while I'm in one of the RvB corps. In addition I've been pretty mobile on this character and lived in both low and null for periods. The only practical way to operate a Charon on this char would be to drop corp each time I wanted to use it and then clone jump to where ever I parked the thing.

    My third slot is taken up with a low skill pilot that can operate a Bestower and a Noctis (about a day of training). She supports my mission runner on my second account. On my second account, I have the mission runner who can also manufacture, then two alts. One is a CEO sitting/price checker alt. The other I allocated just under 900K skill points to, just enough to keep him within the free clone upgrade cost. He can pilot a Bestower and Noctis, all the T1 Frigs and some of the T1 Cruisers, run prototype cloaking device and light a Cyno. I use him to support this character and he was particularly useful in null scouting out gates. If I lost him, even when podded, it was for the cost of a T1 fitted slasher and sometimes a cloak. I could light a cyno with him for my corps mates JF and then just leave him on his own outside the station while the cyno timer ticked down without anyone having to undock carriers to protect him.

    If we had ten alt slots I could fill them! They are vital.

    I don't want to be able to train on multiple alts at the same time. Whilst it sounds nice for me, the problem is that everyone else would get the same benefit and the competition in every area of specilization would triple. No thanks.
    Iria Ahrens
    Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
    #27 - 2012-06-09 11:30:22 UTC
    Sarpy Aranori wrote:
    It's annoying that you can't train two at the same time..

    Just makes it disgustingly obvious how money hungry CCP are.


    Oh please.

    It doesn't matter what game you play, you can only level/train/play one character per account at a time. The only difference is EVE allows offline training. No one bitches about the advantages of being able to play one character while leveling up another.


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