EVE General Discussion

You can try to take down my Rokh in 1.0 space.

Yeah I have read it. I guess all who goes mining, then reproces, then construct, and then use the self made ammo and ship to run some missions is, according to this philosophy, a miner and a carebear. The oposite sort of player is the cool, brave and smart ganker. Now it is clear enaugh.

To have legitimity to then come here and pretend you have guts, instead of pretending the same after killing miners and taking us all for stupid? You painted an accurate portrail of yourselves guys and guys (with female avatars, this in my village we cal transvestidos). And thats why you are doomed, mark my words.

make concord chance-based, done, suicide ganking has risk

a calculated risk is still a risk
ask any investor or owner of facebook stock

Simple fix.

Swop the market value of destroyers and hulks.

If destroyers cost 300 mil a pop and Hulks cost 1 mil....

Problem solved.

I do love how everything that the gankers fly was created through immaculate conception and required no resources from miners at all. If miners didn't exist, you would be shooting spit wads at each other....

This "war", is not nothing more than grand scale market manipulation - those who think that it is anything different are blind to the bigger picture.

The "risk" in ganking is the cost a gank modified by the chance that your outcome will not be achieved. That catalyst you are using to suicide gank is an expense, not a risk. You know that it is going to be destroyed as part of your activity and you have planned to exchange the value of a Catalyst for the value of an explosion (ideally two explosions, one being the target).

Risk = Cost of Attempt x Chance of Failure

Reward = Value of Success x Chance of Success

Since you as the ganker can take measures to reduce the chance of failure to 0 (i.e.: get a proper warp-in, survey the target before shooting it), the risk drops very quickly to 0. You as the ganker also have economic value to extract from your success: make sure you have a salvager around who can scoop up the material from your wreck and the target's wreck, and salvage the two.

Suicide ganking exhumers in hisec is a relatively risk-free activity. The burden is security status loss, but even that isn't much of a burden if you have appropriate infrastructure available: an alt flying an orca providing you with a supply of ganking catalysts means you can laugh in the face of hisec denizens everywhere. You perform your gank, you have an alt in a frigate scooping up the goods* & salvaging the wrecks, then you sit back and relax for 15 minutes until your next attempt (or better, switch to another character on the same account and gank every 5 minutes).

* the hard part here is remembering to scoop into jet cans when the stuff you're trying to scoop won't fit in cargo, and you'll be competing with jackals attempting to profit from your endeavour.

Ganking is most certainly not 100% risk. To claim such is to suggest that mission-running is 100% risk because you lose all that ammo!

TBH those who invested in facebook stock must play zero tank Hulks in EvE. The brain is just that one.

Chance of success can never be zero either. Ganking is never 100% risk. I expect that with a few simple precautions (scanning the target ahead of time, picking fleets with no combat drones, picking solo miners or fleets with no orca), the chance of failure will be low single digits.