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CCP bit off more then Eve & the DEVs could chew with Escalation & Inferno

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#61 - 2012-06-08 15:20:55 UTC
posting in a darthnefarious "wah wah wah my incursion isk faucet wah wah wah" thread
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#62 - 2012-06-08 18:02:32 UTC
Enzaki wrote:
Unified inventory take it out of the game or give back old system or both this new ui is bad and ccp saying they trying to fix it lol it only got more bugeed : /



Another bug? How so?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Onyx Nyx
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#63 - 2012-06-08 19:09:01 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:



Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL!

I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more.

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Kevin Tsutola
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-06-10 20:37:33 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Its time for some pre Inferno rollbacks before we see an Inferno of subscriptions!!! The Unified Inventory was NOT ready for prime time, the incursion nerf KILLED whole communities, the drone/loot nerfs has made the economy outa whack to the point where newbies must be despairing over how many months it'll take them to be able to buy a BS.... and Dust bunnies 90210 is in the pipeline for he summer?

-IMHO give peeps the option to turn off the Unified Inventory like last year where the ship spinning was brought back.
-Unnerf the Incursions.
-Fix EVE voice because Escalation/Inferno really caused it to bomb!
-Bring back meta 0 loot ( this shoulda been phased in 1-2 months after the drone nerf not at the same Was the thinking everyone will buy PLEX to keep up or was that marketings idea over Dr E's objections of sinks over nerfs ? )

With DUST bunnies being the dice roll of the future of CCP & its comming soon CCP better act quick on the above or face the consequences like last year.


No they won't admit it man, they are too proud, their own lead designer says that. Sometimes you just gotta know when you messed up and this Unified inventory was a terrible, unneeded change that needs to be thrown out and forgotten.

But I suppose they need to waste everyone's time with these fixes until they make it how it was before with some glitter on top. Talk about running circles no wonder this game is in the state it's in.
Josef Djugashvilis
#65 - 2012-06-10 22:08:52 UTC
I thought mittens got drunk and fell under the bus.

This is not a signature.

Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#66 - 2012-06-10 23:33:18 UTC
Its funny how many people think that the UI can simply be rolled back when hundreds of man-hours of coding and refactoring of the original UI designed (and by CCP's own admittance, horridly documented) for the game's launch have pretty much torn out the ability to do so.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword

Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2012-06-10 23:49:47 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:

Rabble Rabble, Rabble Rabble.


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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#68 - 2012-06-11 06:41:04 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Kevin Tsutola wrote:

No they won't admit it man, they are too proud, their own lead designer says that. Sometimes you just gotta know when you messed up and this Unified inventory was a terrible, unneeded change that needs to be thrown out and forgotten.

But I suppose they need to waste everyone's time with these fixes until they make it how it was before with some glitter on top. Talk about running circles no wonder this game is in the state it's in.


Yep I sadly think you are correct &if you don't admit tha CCP DEV's changes are not awesome you are ignored & your opinions are shite canned as irrevelant
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#69 - 2012-06-11 06:47:43 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Lykouleon wrote:
Its funny how many people think that the UI can simply be rolled back when hundreds of man-hours of coding and refactoring of the original UI designed (and by CCP's own admittance, horridly documented) for the game's launch have pretty much torn out the ability to do so.



lol by your arguement if CCP spent 100 man years of freezing 100 tons of turds & tried to ship it to a port it should still be accepted because of all the work put into the frozen turds development & transport eventhough its useless in the port & stinks to hi heaven after it gets hit by sunlight.
Somtimes a pig is still a pig no matter how much lip stick is dumped on it
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Kathryn Railly
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#70 - 2012-06-11 06:55:00 UTC
CCP Hilmar wrote:
Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.


You know what you have to do, but do you have the stones to do so? I doubt it.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#71 - 2012-06-11 06:58:48 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
posting in a darthnefarious "wah wah wah my incursion isk faucet wah wah wah" thread


HA!!
Indo Nira
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2012-06-11 14:11:59 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
posting in a darthnefarious "wah wah wah my incursion isk faucet wah wah wah" thread



+1
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#73 - 2012-06-11 14:15:39 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Ursula Thrace wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
-Bring back meta 0 loot ( this shoulda been phased in 1-2 months after the drine nerf not at the same mother @#$ing time dumb arse DEVs!!! )


because insulting people always makes them eager to help you. Roll


After a month & a half of pointing this crap out I'm tired and seeing thier 'eagerness' being nothing more than a lip service in a few petty thread comments I DON'T CARE ANYMORE AND I AM ANGRY AS HELLAttentionAttention
The time for civility has come neigh. Not like the CSM is doing jack for anyone except thier own petty interests at least Mittans was for more of the betterment of Eve in general while he was on the CSM before he got thrown under the bus by CCP

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Serena Serene
Heretic University
#74 - 2012-06-11 14:55:31 UTC
I like the Inventory.

I don't mind things being expensive, so I can work toward them. They are expensive for everyone, right? If they are not, those others do something smarter than I do, so there's room for me to improve.

If something is so expensive it isn't worth being used over something else, then I'll use this something else.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#75 - 2012-06-11 15:11:39 UTC
....I don't run incursions, I don't erm... Drone Loot :S and I Havn't run WH sites in 6 months, but I can still buy a 4bil Bhaalgorn. oh and a Tengu So don't talk shite.

Pvp Pays Bitches

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#76 - 2012-06-12 18:24:19 UTC
From what I gleamed from CCP Soundwave's June 4th DEV blog the 'last' UI patch will be put up June 19th and this appears to have pushed back thier calandar nearly a month. I wonder if this lost month is going to have a cascading effect on the other fixes that where needed due to the other Unintended consequences created by Escalation ( Incursion community decimation & Drone drop imbalances/complexes ) and Inferno ( FW complex imbalances) & Wardeck (ally system ) issues or if they'll get pushed to the backburner because the deadlines for the next release won't be met.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#77 - 2012-06-12 18:29:54 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
From what I gleamed from CCP Soundwave's June 4th DEV blog the 'last' UI patch will be put up June 19th and this appears to have pushed back thier calandar nearly a month. I wonder if this lost month is going to have a cascading effect on the other fixes that where needed due to the other Unintended consequences created by Escalation ( Incursion community decimation & Drone drop imbalances/complexes ) and Inferno ( FW complex imbalances) & Wardeck (ally system ) issues or if they'll get pushed to the backburner because the deadlines for the next release won't be met.

CCP's current plan seems to be set for 18-24 months, and they have multiple teams already working on features for those releases (ring mining etc.)

The fact that they have dedicated resources to iterating on current features and issues is not a bad thing.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#78 - 2012-06-12 18:59:18 UTC
Because players refuse to get used to the new inventory system / learn how to work it the game MUSt be flawed and doomed to failure




god i love teh GD section. bunch of ******* tards Big smile

FC, what do?

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#79 - 2012-06-12 19:14:06 UTC
Confirming I like the new inventory just as much as I did before when visiting my carrier and POS recently.

Liking it in station too :D

Looting is going pretty well too.

I think all that's left is giving us buttons to access some of the hangers and such directly and some of the performance issues and bugs like disappearing items. But for 1.1 I;m already in love with V3 Minmatar. (I WANT V3 ANGELS DAMNIT xD)

The Drake is a Lie

Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#80 - 2012-06-12 19:14:45 UTC
The inventory is worse than the old one, but atleast you can customize it abit to simulate the old one, since you failed to adapt, I guess your only choice is to biomass your character and gtfo.
Incursion nerf, I dont mind it, killed whole communities? If people actually did build up "communities" around this then they were bound to die sooner or later anyone. Theres only so many hundred times you wanna do the same **** before it gets really, REALLY, old.
WHY are you using EVE voice?
Meta 0 loot doesnt matter, rats still drop named stuff, so who cares.

OP, you have no clue what youre talking about and you are just a whining kid, unsub and get lost.