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100MN Talos

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Merge 9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-05 15:51:40 UTC
[Talos, 100MN]

Internal Force Field Array I
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x5

Loses 50 DPS to smaller guns but EHP and survivability improved compared to a Garmon's fit.
Dark Pangolin
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#2 - 2012-06-05 18:45:00 UTC
May I ask what the point is?
How long does your cap last?
How many cycles does it take to reach max speed?
Can you maintain point and hit your target for more than 10sec while you accelerate?
Is this simply a GTFO maneuver?

I'm asking out of genuine interest. I understand how the 100mn tengu works, but having tried out the same with an Oracle (which is much easier to fit with 100mn AB btw), I really don't see a practical way to fly it.

Donedy
Lulzsec Space
#3 - 2012-06-05 23:03:37 UTC
Well, it works if people try to get you. If no it doesnt...
Btw, it tanks way more easylee missile boats.

And yes, its also good for GTFO manoeuvers.
It's just a different way to fly it. And it works, differently, but it works.
WolfeReign
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-06-06 14:01:07 UTC
Considering the 100mn afterburner are you even able to keep blaster range and still keep speed....to stay out of web range you'll probably be doing better damage with rails...just sayin
Mazzy Star
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-06-06 14:26:00 UTC
You have a bit less speed than the MWD Talos but you have a longer time before your cap runs out and of course your sig radius is much smaller. The people suggesting rails and what - I don't think you understand the purpose of this fit. The problem with downgrading to Ion blasters is you really lose a lot of your range. One advantage to Garmon's Talos is it can sit at point range and do great damage using Null. You could do something like this, but it starts to get expensive:


[Talos, 100MN copy 1]
Internal Force Field Array I
True Sansha Reactor Control Unit
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Domination Warp Disruptor

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-06-06 15:04:02 UTC
WolfeReign wrote:
Considering the 100mn afterburner are you even able to keep blaster range and still keep speed....to stay out of web range you'll probably be doing better damage with rails...just sayin


But then when you're turning it's an Oil tanker alike, can work for sure but I don't really like it, if it's range I need I'd fit the Caldari version and still keep a very decent speed/tank/manoeuvrability, but again it's a matter of use purpose and user experience.
Not everybody has Garmon's talent and experience.

brb

this is alt
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-06-07 18:15:50 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
WolfeReign wrote:
Considering the 100mn afterburner are you even able to keep blaster range and still keep speed....to stay out of web range you'll probably be doing better damage with rails...just sayin


But then when you're turning it's an Oil tanker alike, can work for sure but I don't really like it, if it's range I need I'd fit the Caldari version and still keep a very decent speed/tank/manoeuvrability, but again it's a matter of use purpose and user experience.
Not everybody has Garmon's talent and experience.

Who the **** is this garmon dude?
Nayl Mkoll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-06-07 19:33:40 UTC
this is alt wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
WolfeReign wrote:
Considering the 100mn afterburner are you even able to keep blaster range and still keep speed....to stay out of web range you'll probably be doing better damage with rails...just sayin


But then when you're turning it's an Oil tanker alike, can work for sure but I don't really like it, if it's range I need I'd fit the Caldari version and still keep a very decent speed/tank/manoeuvrability, but again it's a matter of use purpose and user experience.
Not everybody has Garmon's talent and experience.

Who the **** is this garmon dude?


you should get out of your pod more and read/listen to more of the community or maybe watch a pvp video or 2
Arec Bardwin
#9 - 2012-06-07 21:27:02 UTC
this is alt wrote:

Who the **** is this garmon dude?
It's the dude that gave 200 bill isk to some gamer chick in return for nude pics of her P
Mazzy Star
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2012-06-07 22:01:20 UTC
Arec Bardwin wrote:
this is alt wrote:

Who the **** is this garmon dude?
It's the dude that gave 200 bill isk to some gamer chick in return for nude pics of her P


Pics or it didn't happen.
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-06-08 02:43:19 UTC
Arec Bardwin wrote:
this is alt wrote:

Who the **** is this garmon dude?
It's the dude that gave 200 bill isk to some gamer chick in return for nude pics of her P



Hhhmmm ... 200 bil isk would be like 5000 euros worth of isk. With that cash youd get alot more then pics if you went to vegas etc ^^
Uinuva Karma
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-06-08 05:59:42 UTC
27.1s align time?

Good luck!

Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec. 

Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#13 - 2012-06-08 07:42:46 UTC
100mn fits are all about agility. Maximize that.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

this is alt
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-06-08 16:59:47 UTC
Arec Bardwin wrote:
this is alt wrote:

Who the **** is this garmon dude?
It's the dude that gave 200 bill isk to some gamer chick in return for nude pics of her P

So some fat ass loser that can´t get a pussy?
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#15 - 2012-06-08 17:43:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Kara Books
Swap one of the rigs for one of those whatcha mcall it to lower the cap use of the prop.

(edit part)
may give you a few extra seconds to wack some frig and gtfo.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-06-08 18:43:49 UTC
Mazzy Star wrote:
Arec Bardwin wrote:
this is alt wrote:

Who the **** is this garmon dude?
It's the dude that gave 200 bill isk to some gamer chick in return for nude pics of her P


Pics or it didn't happen.



He got scammed on the merchandise Lol

brb

Trading Unknown
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-06-08 23:43:17 UTC
Arec Bardwin wrote:
this is alt wrote:

Who the **** is this garmon dude?
It's the dude that gave 200 bill isk to some gamer chick in return for nude pics of her P


Wow, nerf boobs.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#18 - 2012-06-09 16:46:45 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
Swap one of the rigs for one of those whatcha mcall it to lower the cap use of the prop.

(edit part)
may give you a few extra seconds to wack some frig and gtfo.


Cap isn't really that big of an issue on a 100mn Talos. Again, it's all about agility.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Merge 9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-06-23 14:29:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Merge 9
Mazzy Star wrote:
You have a bit less speed than the MWD Talos but you have a longer time before your cap runs out and of course your sig radius is much smaller. The people suggesting rails and what - I don't think you understand the purpose of this fit. The problem with downgrading to Ion blasters is you really lose a lot of your range. One advantage to Garmon's Talos is it can sit at point range and do great damage using Null. You could do something like this, but it starts to get expensive:


[Talos, 100MN copy 1]
Internal Force Field Array I
True Sansha Reactor Control Unit
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Domination Warp Disruptor

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5


Having played with both fits a few times the 100mn really needs the Neutrons i'll try that fit, thanks. Think i will go for webbing drones though and see how that works out.

[Talos, 100MN Neutron]

Internal Force Field Array I
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Fourier Transform Tracking Program
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Process-Interruptive Warp Disruptor

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x5

Did this downside of most of my fits is the shiney stuff i use but it's feeling liek teh 100mn gimps the talos too badly..
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-06-23 14:52:16 UTC
Merge 9 wrote:
Mazzy Star wrote:
You have a bit less speed than the MWD Talos but you have a longer time before your cap runs out and of course your sig radius is much smaller. The people suggesting rails and what - I don't think you understand the purpose of this fit. The problem with downgrading to Ion blasters is you really lose a lot of your range. One advantage to Garmon's Talos is it can sit at point range and do great damage using Null. You could do something like this, but it starts to get expensive:


[Talos, 100MN copy 1]
Internal Force Field Array I
True Sansha Reactor Control Unit
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Domination Warp Disruptor

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5


Having played with both fits a few times the 100mn really needs the Neutrons i'll try that fit, thanks. Think i will go for webbing drones though and see how that works out.

[Talos, 100MN Neutron]

Internal Force Field Array I
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Fourier Transform Tracking Program
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Process-Interruptive Warp Disruptor

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x5

Did this downside of most of my fits is the shiney stuff i use but it's feeling liek teh 100mn gimps the talos too badly..



What a nice loot piñata for my blaster Megathron Lol

brb

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