EVE General Discussion

Good, i don't want to read more carebear diarrhea anyway.

And BTW, if EvE Online is still an amazing Sandbox MMO, i will be here 9 years from now, since this type of game is special and rare.

Because there is nothing to suggest that there is a huge drop-out in response rates or that the sample is biased.

That's why I asked you to provide a source for that response rate number, and why I'd still like to see one. As far as I can tell, all we know is that 2,400 people answered, which is a statistically significant sample.

I deal with it, that's why i kill and steal your kind.

It's rather the other way around, you just haven't figured out and never will because you're incapable of

Really? Stick around and start keeping an eye out for it. You'll come across it soon enough.

People you need to understand fans of SF play SF because they love sf themes, those who play only becuse pvp reason are focused on other games, like online FPS etc, for me no wonder that only 25% of people play eve becuse pvp reason, and no wonder here 75% who prefer solo play style + some interacition with other players, part of social etc.

I have question for you, you like movies like star trek only because of lazros...?

Well, that's kind of my point.

I didn't get it. By the sounds of it, it was part of a newsletter, and my response to those kinds of things varies between a) unsubscribing, and b) unsubscribing and threatening to report the company to spam block lists if they keep sending me things I've unsubscribed to. Depending how it was presented in the newsletter, it might not be a case of “didn't want/bother to respond” but of “didn't actually get the link”.

Arguably, there is a few layers of self-selection going on here (those who select to do online surveys, among those who select to meticulously read the newsletter, among those who select to receive the newsletter), but then you just run up against the wall of “how does this selection process bias the sample?”.

For me, the 2,400 responses means that a sufficient number of people have replied to make it a likely scenario. On its own, it generates about a 2% margin of error for 95% confidence. It doesn't particularly need to be all that rigorous and the actual questions are far more problematic than the sampling anyway.


…and I also like the fact that PvE is less important for EVE than Mac support and that potentially as few as 4% of the players started playing EVE for that reason. But those are just my biases.

I've seen requests to ban players from HS if they gank, to Jail accounts who gank, to CONCORD pods of players who gank, to forcing the ganker to reimburse gank victims, to preventing gankers from bording ships, to CONCORD Orcas involved in ganks to making Hulks as well buffered as freighters, and so many more. Including threads asking for an outright ban on ganking (though those seem out of vogue atm).

I began to see a trend (Hint: I started seeing the trend when the threads were about outright bans).

Because half of their programming doesn't qualify as Science Fiction? With all their "reality" shows and paranormal crap and variations on antique road show (Hollywood Treasure, etc) they hardly had space for any real sci fi.

So they changed their name, probably to avoid being sued for false advertising.

Thank you for that.