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Why Pod?

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Dakeen Kurvora
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-06-08 13:46:19 UTC
Just a little curious after being podded a couple of time. Seems a little counter productive isn't it? It's just that much longer I someone has to go back and grind missions for ISK instead of being out there PVPing it up. I mean it's not like you get anything out of it other than another little thing to stick on a killboard right?

Please note before the trolls come barging in: I am genuinely curious, due to the number of posts about low/null sec being empty, and nothing drops from a pod. Unfortunately typing does not translate tone very well.

War targets, unofficial or not, I can understand. Cause the enemy as much loss as possible. Random PVP it seems to only dilute your targets?
Price Check Aisle3
#2 - 2012-06-08 13:48:55 UTC
Where are you losing all these pods? Unless you're in null-sec, you should very rarely lose a pod.
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Dakeen Kurvora
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-06-08 13:51:03 UTC
In low sec, caught by a gate camp once, random dude once, and some guys popped into a mission once.
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#4 - 2012-06-08 13:51:58 UTC
It removes enemy intelligence from local
It removes potential FC's from the field
Some pods are worth billions
Alot of people consider it a courtesy, especially after a long trip to find a fight, to take the express ride back home

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

Masikari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-06-08 13:52:02 UTC
Podding is extremely handy in WH's - ensures any invading foe(s) cannot return easily.

Pain in the bum when it happens to you tho. Back to Jita for more scanning implants before setting off for the 33 jumps back X
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-06-08 13:54:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Destination SkillQueue
Why not? I don't care about the amount of grinding you have to do, I'm not going to let the enemy have free intel on us, if I can help it and there is no telling how tasty that egg killreport will be unless you break it and take a look.
Price Check Aisle3
#7 - 2012-06-08 13:56:45 UTC
Dakeen Kurvora wrote:
In low sec, caught by a gate camp once, random dude once, and some guys popped into a mission once.

In low-sec you should only really lose pods to smart-bombing and the odd case of high lag. You should be spamming the warp-to button right before your ship blows. It's handy to keep celestials on your overview for this reason.

Otherwise, Kijo and Masikari hit all the reasons I know of. Well, except one, which is tears.
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Reverend Cletis
Synister Mynisters
#8 - 2012-06-08 13:57:05 UTC
I've seen many comments in the past about being hooked on the squish sound they make when they go boom.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#9 - 2012-06-08 13:57:11 UTC
Dakeen Kurvora wrote:
It's just that much longer I someone has to go back and grind missions for ISK instead of being out there PVPing it up. I mean it's not like you get anything out of it other than another little thing to stick on a killboard right??



You really get this game, don't you?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-06-08 13:58:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
I agree, remove podkilling. Make it part of losing your ship. After all, how could that little ball survive in space at all?

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#11 - 2012-06-08 14:00:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Kijo Rikki
Price Check Aisle3 wrote:
tears.


Ah yes, I forgot about tactical tears.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#12 - 2012-06-08 14:02:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Pak Narhoo
Dakeen Kurvora wrote:
Just a little curious after being podded a couple of time. Seems a little counter productive isn't it? It's just that much longer I someone has to go back and grind missions for ISK instead of being out there PVPing it up. I mean it's not like you get anything out of it other than another little thing to stick on a killboard right?

Please note before the trolls come barging in: I am genuinely curious, due to the number of posts about low/null sec being empty, and nothing drops from a pod. Unfortunately typing does not translate tone very well.

War targets, unofficial or not, I can understand. Cause the enemy as much loss as possible. Random PVP it seems to only dilute your targets?


You got it. Podding you means removing you from the field. One less opponent to deal with.
If I have you in your pod around it may mean you can jump nearby refit and get back in. By podding you, you end up in your med clone where ever that is and a lot of the time nowhere near the battlefield you got pk-ed.


What you can do is don't have such expensive implants in when you go where you can get podded.
- +3's are pretty cheap.
- Don't equip what you cannot afford to lose. I know that last one is old but still stands.
- Use jump clones, that is where they are for.
- use +5's for high sec, though these days if you are a miner...) When you think it's "safe".
- +3's for low and if you're in or going to null it depends if you have a foothold or not. If not, I went there (on my alt) just empty with a few cheap +3 weapon and agility implants.

You can make dying as expensive as you want in EVE. Not saying it can be prevented to be pod killed but you can do a lot to make the cost as low as possible if you anticipate on it.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-06-08 14:03:02 UTC
Dakeen Kurvora wrote:
Just a little curious after being podded a couple of time. Seems a little counter productive isn't it? It's just that much longer I someone has to go back and grind missions for ISK instead of being out there PVPing it up. I mean it's not like you get anything out of it other than another little thing to stick on a killboard right?

Please note before the trolls come barging in: I am genuinely curious, due to the number of posts about low/null sec being empty, and nothing drops from a pod. Unfortunately typing does not translate tone very well.

War targets, unofficial or not, I can understand. Cause the enemy as much loss as possible. Random PVP it seems to only dilute your targets?



You know kids like to burn flies wings and why they do it? -simple masochism act.

Well pod it's more or less the same.

brb

Aliaksandre
Screaming Hayabusa
#14 - 2012-06-08 14:03:03 UTC
For many PVPers, the killboard is king. For example, I'll blow up a ship everytime instead of offering a ransom, because the killmail is worth more to me than isk. Many PVPers like myself play to blow up ships, not make isk.

Of course this isn't true for everyone, there are people in my corporation who offer (and honor) ransoms to let ships and pods go.
Dakeen Kurvora
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-06-08 14:03:07 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Dakeen Kurvora wrote:
It's just that much longer I someone has to go back and grind missions for ISK instead of being out there PVPing it up. I mean it's not like you get anything out of it other than another little thing to stick on a killboard right??



You really get this game, don't you?


Not yet, but I'll get there. Mostly by asking what may be silly questions to many.

I never said anything about removing it.

Any of you ever set a camp or go on random roams and just not decide to pod people or is it always for those various reasons?
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-06-08 14:06:48 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
You got it. Podding you means removing you from the field. One less opponent to deal with.
If I have you in your pod around it may mean you can jump nearby refit and get back in. By podding you, you end up in your med clone where ever that is and a lot of the time nowhere near the battlefield you got pk-ed.


Might not always be a good tactic, once in some fresh clone it takes about 10sec to insure it, take a new ship accordingly to fleet/gang needs and be back with a fresh ship ready to pownage.

Of course this depends how far the fight is and I'm about to bet in high sec people mostly stay docked or log off but in null I can tell you I'm the first to ask to pod me. The faster I get home the faster I'll be back with a new ship to harass you Lol

brb

Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#17 - 2012-06-08 14:11:11 UTC
Besides removing eyes from the immediate vicinity, a pod can still act as a warp in for others.

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#18 - 2012-06-08 14:12:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
tactical advantage

sometimes the advantage is in not killing the pods from a roaming gang, then they have a nice long trip before they can reship and be a problem on the field.

it really depends.

but really the only time you should EVER lose a pod is in null in a bubble
anywhere else and you fail as a pilot

if you sit there after your ship pops beating your keyboard and throwing your ramen noodles across the room instead of warping away that's your own damn fault for not using the mechanics to your full advantage.

if you're dead, you know it way before it happens, you should be spamming warp while you have a celestial in overview before your structure fails.

you can align and warp before most players can even ctl click you, there is no excuse for bubbleless pod kills
none
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#19 - 2012-06-08 14:14:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpymunky
It's good for the implants and hardwires market.


Reverend Cletis wrote:
I've seen many comments in the past about being hooked on the squish sound they make when they go boom.

They haven't made a squish sound since Dominion.

Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
You know kids like to burn flies wings and why they do it? -simple masochism act.
Umm... that's not masochism.

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#20 - 2012-06-08 14:15:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Pak Narhoo
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Pak Narhoo wrote:
You got it. Podding you means removing you from the field. One less opponent to deal with.
If I have you in your pod around it may mean you can jump nearby refit and get back in. By podding you, you end up in your med clone where ever that is and a lot of the time nowhere near the battlefield you got pk-ed.


Might not always be a good tactic, once in some fresh clone it takes about 10sec to insure it, take a new ship accordingly to fleet/gang needs and be back with a fresh ship ready to pownage.

Of course this depends how far the fight is and I'm about to bet in high sec people mostly stay docked or log off but in null I can tell you I'm the first to ask to pod me. The faster I get home the faster I'll be back with a new ship to harass you Lol


Hehe yeah. Sorry, reply is just based upon the limit experience I have. But when I got send back 'home' on a few occasions from 0-high I had it for that day, not because I got pk-ed, I lost nothing I wasn't expecting to lose, but after 2-3 hours waiting for fleets to form up I usually have hit my 'EVE tax' of that day.

There's something called RL too you know? Big smile
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