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What are your expectation levels with the Mac client?
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OldMan Gana
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-24 17:16:43 UTC  |  Edited by: OldMan Gana
I'm curious to know about this. My own personal expectations are low in the grand scheme of things.
I'm grateful just to be able to log on each time and have some fun without crashing or freezing. I cringe with worry every time I read about an update to be launched and then the emotional roller coaster goes to the other side when I see that it launches and I can log on.
I never worry about graphics, or minor glitches, my expectation levels are so low that to be able to log on and play the game is enough for me in some respects. So in terms of how CCP can improve the product for me, they wouldn't have to do a great deal, like I have mentioned- due to my low expectation levels.

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-05-24 18:07:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
OldMan Gana wrote:
I'm curious to know about this. My own personal expectations are low in the grand scheme of things.
I'm grateful just to be able to log on each time and have some fun without crashing or freezing. I cringe with worry every time I read about an update to be launched and then the emotional roller coaster goes to the other side when I see that it launches and I can log on.
I never worry about graphics, or minor glitches, my expectation levels are so low that to be able to log on and play the game is enough for me in some respects. So in terms of how CCP can improve the product for me, they wouldn't have to do a great deal, like I have mentioned- due to my low expectation levels.


I expect a Mac client that performs equal or close to the wintel client, given I pay the same amount as a wintel user at subscription time. i.e. There is no disclaimer 'OSX client users may experience lesser comparible performance vs the windows client...' when signing up or buying more flight time...

The EVE Mac client is a good 'sampler' or 'taster' for a OSX user to explore EVE and its mechanics, but IMHO the Wintel client (on Parallels, VMware or BootCamp for OSX users) is a must have for serious players, especially as you evolve into seconds-count pvp, etc. I can even run two wintel clients simultaneously at 60FPS in Parallels on my iMac, alt-tabbing between the two...try that with the OSX client...

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heresmus
Brutor Tribe
#3 - 2012-05-24 20:35:45 UTC
Does it run as hot using parallels, I find it very odd that my quad core MBP is stressed so hard using the mac client?
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-05-25 13:27:40 UTC
heresmus wrote:
Does it run as hot using parallels, I find it very odd that my quad core MBP is stressed so hard using the mac client?


My 27" iMac runs 'warm', fan is on but not full speed. Running EVE on my MBP does get it quite toasty though even w/ Parallels or BootCamped, fan at full speed within a few minutes and it stays there.

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ito kazami
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-05-25 15:19:58 UTC
the mac client is so bad , i have no expectations at all ...
Dieter Rams
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-28 14:45:06 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
OldMan Gana wrote:
I'm curious to know about this. My own personal expectations are low in the grand scheme of things.
I'm grateful just to be able to log on each time and have some fun without crashing or freezing. I cringe with worry every time I read about an update to be launched and then the emotional roller coaster goes to the other side when I see that it launches and I can log on.
I never worry about graphics, or minor glitches, my expectation levels are so low that to be able to log on and play the game is enough for me in some respects. So in terms of how CCP can improve the product for me, they wouldn't have to do a great deal, like I have mentioned- due to my low expectation levels.


I expect a Mac client that performs equal or close to the wintel client, given I pay the same amount as a wintel user at subscription time. i.e. There is no disclaimer 'OSX client users may experience lesser comparible performance vs the windows client...' when signing up or buying more flight time...

The EVE Mac client is a good 'sampler' or 'taster' for a OSX user to explore EVE and its mechanics, but IMHO the Wintel client (on Parallels, VMware or BootCamp for OSX users) is a must have for serious players, especially as you evolve into seconds-count pvp, etc. I can even run two wintel clients simultaneously at 60FPS in Parallels on my iMac, alt-tabbing between the two...try that with the OSX client...


How is VMware compared to Boot Camp?
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-05-28 16:39:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Dieter Rams wrote:
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How is VMware compared to Boot Camp?


BootCamp puts Windows on a separate hard drive partition, and at boot up time you have to pick between booting OSX or booting into windows. When you want to play EVE (on windows) you reboot into the Windows O/S. When you want to use OSX apps you reboot into OSX O/S...so its the rebooting aspect that defines BootCamp. Price: Free + Windows O/S cost

Parallels and VMWare run as apps in Mac OSX. You boot into OSX and launch a Parallels/VMWare virtual machine of Windows -- and if set to 'coherence mode' they minimize to the top navbar once launched. You then launch either OSX or Windows applications from your OSX desktop or launch bar normally without thinking or caring if they are OSX or Windows apps. No rebooting, just boot into your Mac normally and use either types of apps. Price: Approx $80 + Windows O/S cost

If you have the cash, Parallels is the way to go. If every penny counts, you use BootCamp and live with the reboots

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Steve Renalard
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-05-29 19:46:15 UTC
VMWare can run EVE? how it performs?
Esker Sheep
The Black Sheep Inc
#9 - 2012-05-29 21:23:46 UTC
I've not had any problems with the mac client. Maybe my years of playing games on the mac has reduced my expectation levels to a point where running is fine.

That said I don't have issues with crashing, I don't have unexpected lag, in fact the client behaves as I'd expect. I generally play in null sec and haven't had issues with 1v1 combat or large fleets, at least no more than the other people I've been playing with.

I'm playing on a 2010 MBP with the discrete graphics and run two clients.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-05-31 13:15:23 UTC
Esker Sheep wrote:
I've not had any problems with the mac client. Maybe my years of playing games on the mac has reduced my expectation levels to a point where running is fine.

That said I don't have issues with crashing, I don't have unexpected lag, in fact the client behaves as I'd expect. I generally play in null sec and haven't had issues with 1v1 combat or large fleets, at least no more than the other people I've been playing with.

I'm playing on a 2010 MBP with the discrete graphics and run two clients.


Empirical comparative data might shed some light....

Can you put your resolution in 2560x1640, set all graphics settings to high (excluding shaders), go to Jita undock and hit CTRL-F and check your FPS? What happens when you pan the camera around?


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Easthir Ravin
Easy Co.
#11 - 2012-06-08 12:49:10 UTC
Greetings

I have been playing EVE on Mac for about 3years. I will say that support for Mac has gotten better since my first undock in an Ibis. I would love to see the same level of support for Mac as Wintel, but am not disheartened when its not there. Kudos to the Mac Devs, as my only true expectation is to have a Mac patch in a timely manner, I can not remember the last time I had to wait days for a fix to a Mac issue.

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