EVE General Discussion

I don't get this interpretation of charts and stats discussion. Set map to 'pilots in space' filter. Empire is a blaze of activity, low a bit less, null is a desert and has been for the nearly three years I've been playing.
Now I know it's not an intel tool, but you can travel 20 jumps without seeing anybody in null. The majority of asteroids, and other PVE playthings, are untouched every day. It was that richness that got me out into null as one of those solo oddballs. Couldn't stay solo though, since the few people you meet are usually quite cool.
My point about the vocal PVPers who despise PVE industry roleplaying and basically everything else? The point stands, they are often but not always kinda tragic and narrow.

Tw*t (*=a) or Troll, I cant decide.



Tal

Sillyness :) having experienced players from many online games, i suggest eve actually supports some of the more well educated neck-beards of the world. Long as you stear well clear of general discussion..

Just try engaging the average wow dweeb in conversation about something more real and important than RAIDZzZ and Geeeer! Think you might return to eve a little more thankful for what u got :D Internet spaceships is as we all know very important business, but i'd rather talk spaceships with a grownup than anything with a 12 year old :/

1. There's a counter though!
2. people use that?

Then in those terms WOW gives an extra pvp form that you can't have in Eve:

-unique titles: you pvp other teams at euro/world and server level to get those

-unique riding toys: you pvp other teams at all levels to get those

-high end sets and legendary weapons: you also pvp vs other players to get those first

Wow is a really hard core pvp game after all

You got that wrong.



Autopiloting takes freaking ages if you do it in the freighter. Doesn't matter if you're at the keyboard or not.
And if you lose about 1b+ worth of cargo this way. Well, it's your own fault.

It's not nitpicking. It's a critical distinction: it means they're not counting players or accounts, but something that can distributed completely freely without any connection to where said players actually spend their time.

…and that's just it: “if”. There is nothing in the numbers to suggest that. Oh, and no, it doesn't follow that the majority enjoys highsec more.

There's nothing in the numbers that suggests anything about enjoyment.

But a quick glance at the map any time will show you where the active characters are.

Any analysis that contradicts that reality is obviously flawed, or so narrow as to be deliberately obtuse.

Now you are twisting my words. "If as in results show" not "If the results show"
"Active characters" is "not counting players or accounts" ? What ?

You are under assumption that those 66% are just "visiting" highsec to buy stuff so they can head back home to those 33%, please.
If everyone is in highsec then surely we don't enjoy it.
In that case the 44% are sadists and the 66% are masochists.

Go check the map and see which space has more orange. It will always be highsec regardless of when you check it.


CCP only sees numbers, character or players don't matter to them. They get told by the stats that the majority of subscribers are in highsec, be it characters or accounts. It would be silly of them as a business to pretend that its the other way around.

A good way to make people like me get into PVP way more is to remove attribute implants from the game, and if possible the whole attribute system, all it does is cause headaches and petitions.

And don't start with the "but you have jump clones" bullshit, jump clones have a HUGE timer, and by the time the timer expires, there is already another fleet I have to get into the next day, and it's basically like not being in a +4clone at all.

Not to mention that every time a fleet is made, 80% of the people on ANY alliance'scomms go like "sorry, but my clone timer is not ready..." which leads to less PVP.

So the fixes to this BS would be:

1) Remove attribute implants and just give +5 to everyone from the start, permanently.

OR

2) Remove attribute implants AND THE WHOLE ATTRIBUTE SYSTEM, and just have set training times from 1 to 5 on all skill tiers to balance it. (hardwires would just have their attribute bonus removed, easy).

OR

3) Make pods immune to warp bubbles (make up a lore reason like "They are too small for the frequency of the sphere to affect their warp drive, which is a special, miniaturized Jovian version), because getting caught in a bubble when your ship explodes pretty much means that you will get podded 99% of the time, hell, it even happens on the test server where there is no real need to pod people.

OR

4) Make the god damn jump clone timer way less, like 6 hours, and that could be lowered to 1 hour by training a skill to lvl 5, -1 hour per level.

It is absolutely ******* ******** that I have to worry about losing my ship and fittings and 120+ million Isk for the attribute implant set + my ******* expensive clone every time I get podded, just for the sake of not training slowly as ****, my main is ******** enough as it is due to the fact that I had to quit Eve for like 2 years in increments for RL reasons.

Seriously, flying a BS or a stealth bomber or a BC or interceptor tackler in a fleet, and basically losing 4-500 mil worth of isk per death is bullshit, some of us have real lives and we can't afford to lose **** tons of isk like that.