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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#1 - 2011-10-05 23:36:59 UTC
Cheapest.

Just wondering what price CCP considers to be the limit before they intervene like they said they would when AUR got introduced.

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#2 - 2011-10-05 23:39:11 UTC

dono, lets try 500m :)
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#3 - 2011-10-05 23:41:28 UTC
Well, i give it one to two weeks before it hits that mark =)

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Acwron
Meet The Fockers
#4 - 2011-10-05 23:42:50 UTC
500 mil til 06 Oct 6am Eve time :D
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#5 - 2011-10-05 23:43:24 UTC


And how would they intervene? Treat us to another blog?
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#6 - 2011-10-05 23:44:11 UTC
Plex promotions i'm guessing.. but its a good question.

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Ildur Amaenar
Epidemic Inc.
#7 - 2011-10-05 23:46:17 UTC
CCP has lots of PLEXES bought years ago that will supply the market (they practice PLEX buying in our days, so..). Don`t think 500 mil is valid for this year. They won`t accept another hit to their login players no. with high PLEX prices.

Expect them to fall under 400 again. This is my prediction.
Ildur Amaenar
Epidemic Inc.
#8 - 2011-10-05 23:48:40 UTC
Think about it. CCP can produce as much ISK as they want.
CCP can buy as much PLEX as they desire.
It is an automated process, made by CCP alts related to specific software. It is simple, it is efficient. This way PLEX don`t drop and don`t rise.
Mukirana
Lone Lion Corporation
#9 - 2011-10-05 23:48:59 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Cheapest.

Just wondering what price CCP considers to be the limit before they intervene like they said they would when AUR got introduced.



"To infinity ... and beyond!"

Yeah it's sad but there is no limit for the PLEX price. And I'm sure CCP will do nothing the counter the price rise.
Rhaegor Stormborn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-10-05 23:58:22 UTC
I am betting this is due to people like myself who have never paid with plex, but are now unwilling to spend real money on this game until CCP fixes it, and are using our ISK stores to buy game time. Can't say for sure, but I am willing to bet that is one of the big reasons for a higher than usual demand.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#11 - 2011-10-06 00:00:50 UTC
Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:
I am betting this is due to people like myself who have never paid with plex, but are now unwilling to spend real money on this game until CCP fixes it, and are using our ISK stores to buy game time. Can't say for sure, but I am willing to bet that is one of the big reasons for a higher than usual demand.


Yes. And all of that has to do with AUR. Or at least with the way it was designed.

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mkint
#12 - 2011-10-06 00:15:45 UTC
Didn't CCP do an early report that said like only 4 PLEXes were ever used for space-gold? No... PLEX prices reflect player confidence in CCP, nothing else. High prices = fewer people willing to pay real $ for EVE. The market can be manipulated by traders, but is dominated by subscribers.

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-10-06 00:17:20 UTC
mkint wrote:
Didn't CCP do an early report that said like only 4 PLEXes were ever used for space-gold? No... PLEX prices reflect player confidence in CCP, nothing else. High prices = fewer people willing to pay real $ for EVE. The market can be manipulated by traders, but is dominated by subscribers.

Actually the spike could be people reactivating their alts... but without real data it is impossible to tell

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Rene Fullchest
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-10-06 00:31:08 UTC
Every PLEX is paid for by someone. It may not be a "subscription", but it is certainly equivalent.

Thus, while subscriptions may be down, the cash flow continues.

The poster above that mentions '...without data..." is correct. Hilmar has information that none of us have and it is fallacy to make assumptions based on his observations without the same information.

On topic, PLEX prices fluctuate, sometimes quickly. Next time it's low, and it will be, buy more than you need for a month at a time and enjoy either not worrying about it for a few months, or sell the excess for profit.
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#15 - 2011-10-06 01:26:49 UTC
inflation plays a part in it. money sinks in eve are pretty bad.
Sebero Sinak
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-10-06 01:37:29 UTC
Perhaps the type of player that financed themselves by selling a couple plexs and kept the supply side fed isn't as active now.

If you check the isk sellers review graph the cost of isk has dropped - again used by players to finance themselves when they don't have time or alts.

My guess is a guess . Players not around dropping cash (plexs) into the system.
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-10-06 02:20:25 UTC
Ildur Amaenar wrote:
CCP has lots of PLEXES bought years ago that will supply the market (they practice PLEX buying in our days, so..). Don`t think 500 mil is valid for this year. They won`t accept another hit to their login players no. with high PLEX prices.

Expect them to fall under 400 again. This is my prediction.


How are they going to make them fall without giving out free game time?
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#18 - 2011-10-06 02:24:24 UTC
Ildur Amaenar wrote:
Think about it. CCP can produce as much ISK as they want.
CCP can buy as much PLEX as they desire.
It is an automated process, made by CCP alts related to specific software. It is simple, it is efficient. This way PLEX don`t drop and don`t rise.


This is exactly what bothers me now, and it bothered me immediately after hearing CCP talk about "intervention".

If CCP were to intervene by buying PLEX off of the market with isk they generated from thin air, they would literally be selling isk. We're not talking free to play NeX cash shop stuff, we're talking straight up isk selling.

I wish CCP were more transparent about what they mean by intervening. In my eyes things like PLEX promotions are fine, but what I described above isn't.
Alina Wize
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-10-06 02:31:12 UTC
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Ildur Amaenar wrote:
CCP has lots of PLEXES bought years ago that will supply the market (they practice PLEX buying in our days, so..). Don`t think 500 mil is valid for this year. They won`t accept another hit to their login players no. with high PLEX prices.

Expect them to fall under 400 again. This is my prediction.


How are they going to make them fall without giving out free game time?


Just give it some time, players are going to realize that the price is up and start purchasing them to sell on the market. Effectively driving the price back down. It's a perfect time for people who buy multiple plex at a discount in order to acquire isk. You also have to think about the people who rely on plex to play. They won't be able to afford inflated plex prices which will cause a saturation of plex that isn't getting consumed. This will draw prices back down as well but probably slowly.

If ccp interferes and generates plex on the market to drive prices down I don't think they would tell us, at least not right away. I don't think they should interfere with the markets at all, that kind of ruins the idea of a sandbox game.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-10-06 02:32:59 UTC
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Ildur Amaenar wrote:
CCP has lots of PLEXES bought years ago that will supply the market (they practice PLEX buying in our days, so..). Don`t think 500 mil is valid for this year. They won`t accept another hit to their login players no. with high PLEX prices.

Expect them to fall under 400 again. This is my prediction.


How are they going to make them fall without giving out free game time?

Players who have invested to plex sell their plex to get profit... price starts going down after the peak has reached... as with any other product.
Also players who buy plex with real money to get iskies, tend to buy more plex when they get good price from them in in-game market...
Plex price goes up and down... sometimes more, sometimes less... nothing new.

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