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Why do liberals choose Caldari avatars?

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Lili Lu
#61 - 2012-06-08 04:33:17 UTC
Svarek wrote:
Okay, by the way, I chose "liberal" because it was the easiest and most distinct opposite to draw to a faction to Eve - the Caldari. I didn't mean anything against anyone or any political stance in any way. People have been getting a little pissy about this. Yeah, it's politics. It was just the easiest and quickest thing to draw - "oh hey super right-wing industriofascists..." - though I thought that would be obvious. And it wasn't meant to line up to any super investigation of reasoning. Quick and dirty for a point.

Oh well. I guess what I mean to say is that if you're going to continue not getting the fact that this whole thread was made ironically (TM), just play nice, sheesh.

If your "irony" is really an attempt at satirizing another thread, you could have pointed at that other thread it with a link to it in the op. I have no idea what thread you are trying to spoof. We don't all read them all you see.

Also, in framing your op the way you did, you only invite posts like this gem from a fellow who appears to be severely addicted to faux news

holy bejesus wrote:
why do liberals try to pretend that socialists are different than national socialists?

why are the richest capitalists liberals?

cognitive disconnect.

Roll And he didn't even get the psychological term right.Ugh
Svarek
#62 - 2012-06-08 04:34:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Svarek
Xorv wrote:
THE L0CK wrote:

No Gallente = liberals[...]


Huh? The Gallente allow civilians to own assault weapons. Classical Liberals or Libertarians maybe, but not what liberals represent today, in EVE all those people are likely long dead.


Yeah, the Gallente/Caldari are kind of like two evolutions of America or a lot of modern countries, as I see it.
Gallente are more classical liberal or libertarian like you said, based on reducing government from its current (today's) state... whereas the Caldari are kind of a swing in the other direction, toward full-blow industrialization and integration in all levels of society, toward the free market and a blatant industrial-political complex.

It's not really so much left/right as it is up/down, as I see it - and what I mean by that is big government / small government.
Roughly and approximately, anyway. Both are actually kind of left/right in several respects. (But Caldari are the most stereotypically "right," and hence why I chose them for the thread.)

My insights are probably limited, I haven't made a comprehensive study of this.


Lili Lu:
Well, unfortunately, if you explain a joke, it's just rubbish.
Though that is, I suppose, a better sort of rubbish than that. Lesson learned, I suppose.
Each forum has its own peculiar dynamics (or even its own particular deficit of them).

Whoops.
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2012-06-08 04:36:37 UTC
Svarek wrote:
To me, it just seems really really odd that somebody would choose to play a character from a society that's basically diametrically opposed to their own political beliefs.

I apologize sincerely for this post.




Are you thinking of someone in particular? .. I haven't noriced an abundance of liberal thinking coming from caldari.

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Svarek
#64 - 2012-06-08 04:40:27 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
Svarek wrote:
To me, it just seems really really odd that somebody would choose to play a character from a society that's basically diametrically opposed to their own political beliefs.

I apologize sincerely for this post.



Are you thinking of someone in particular? .. I haven't noriced an abundance of liberal thinking coming from caldari.



Okay, no, not at all..
That was a rephrasing or wordswap of:
"it's weird that men choose female avatars etc etc"

which was based on another thread that had been killed to death and beyond much like this one.

Ishkabibble.

Whoops.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#65 - 2012-06-08 04:53:20 UTC
I chose Caldari b/c they sounded bad-ass.

Gallente = hippys
Minmitar = tribal
Amarr = religious nuts

These caldari are all brutal corporatism, industry, and war?

Sign me up for that.

Pirate

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2012-06-08 05:25:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Hammer Crendraven
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Because people obviously always play with themselves in role playing games.


Only when guys make female avatars for that purpose.
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2012-06-08 05:41:02 UTC
Svarek wrote:
Okay, by the way, I chose "liberal" because it was the easiest and most distinct opposite to draw to a faction to Eve - the Caldari. I didn't mean anything against anyone or any political stance in any way. People have been getting a little pissy about this. Yeah, it's politics. It was just the easiest and quickest thing to draw - "oh hey super right-wing industriofascists..." - though I thought that would be obvious. And it wasn't meant to line up to any super investigation of reasoning. Quick and dirty for a point.

Oh well. I guess what I mean to say is that if you're going to continue not getting the fact that this whole thread was made ironically (TM), just play nice, sheesh.



The irony also is the assumptions you made.
So you want people to respond to you in a semi serious way to a statement that you made which might not even be true at all.
"Why do liberals choose to play Caldari race?"
How would you know? Do you have any evidence to back up that statement?
Or are you fishing hoping to snare some liberal that does play Caldari when you have no idea if your premiss has any merit to it?
Ergo how can any persons input have any validity whatsoever. The whole thread is an exercise in absurdities.
Then all you are going to get out of this thread is the party line thinking...beating a dead horse...
Since nobody has come forword to defend their liberal position I think your original statement was all bunk anyway.
Nothing new to see here carry on.
Magna Bellator
Doomheim
#68 - 2012-06-08 06:23:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Magna Bellator
Svarek wrote:

....


Yeah, the Gallente/Caldari are kind of like two evolutions of America or a lot of modern countries, as I see it.
Gallente are more classical liberal or libertarian like you said, based on reducing government from its current (today's) state...



I thoguht Liberals were all about increasing goveernment :)

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Noriko Satomi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-06-08 07:29:39 UTC
Talk Left, Live Right.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#70 - 2012-06-08 07:56:16 UTC
Not Sure if Trolling or Simply just a Idiot

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2012-06-08 07:58:08 UTC
Magna Bellator wrote:
Svarek wrote:

....


Yeah, the Gallente/Caldari are kind of like two evolutions of America or a lot of modern countries, as I see it.
Gallente are more classical liberal or libertarian like you said, based on reducing government from its current (today's) state...



I thoguht Liberals were all about increasing goveernment :)


You, sir, get a gold star for passing your pop quiz on government.

Please present your forehead for the stapling procedure.Evil
Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2012-06-08 10:06:34 UTC
Frederick Sanger wrote:
Amarr is the only conservative choice.


Amarr are the Christian RIght
Caldari are the Fiscal Conservatives
Gallente are Amarr/Caldari children who became Liberal Arts Majors and still live off their parents.
Minmatar mow everyone's lawns.
Xhaiden Ora
Doomheim
#73 - 2012-06-08 10:20:59 UTC
Magna Bellator wrote:
U.S. Politics in a nut shell :)


Congradulations! You have the political understanding of a 4 year old that just asked his dad what "Communist" means half way through the The O'Reilly Factor.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#74 - 2012-06-08 10:30:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
nvm

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Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2012-06-08 10:37:45 UTC
Hello I choose Amarr because I am a slaver irl. True story.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#76 - 2012-06-08 10:43:53 UTC
Svarek wrote:
To me, it just seems really really odd that somebody would choose to play a character from a society that's basically diametrically opposed to their own political beliefs.

I apologize sincerely for this post.


They probably choose to play a race which is diametrically opposed to their real-life views. It's a form of outlet of their tensions and in doing this, they get a small "feel" for "the other side".

Just my 0.1 Isk worth.

COO - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse  CEO - Sanctuary Pact Alliance
Xhaiden Ora
Doomheim
#77 - 2012-06-08 10:50:42 UTC
Protip: MMO players select a race based on aesthetics with a heavy bias towards characters that look like "normal" humans. Lore is a secondary factor if its even considered at all.

Caldari are very normal.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#78 - 2012-06-08 10:57:21 UTC
Xhaiden Ora wrote:
Protip: MMO players select a race based on aesthetics with a heavy bias towards characters that look like "normal" humans. Lore is a secondary factor if its even considered at all.

Caldari are very normal.


Then why are there no midgets ingame ? Smile

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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#79 - 2012-06-08 11:02:02 UTC
I'm so not Libral, friends who heard me described as such would laugh Lol

Tal

Does that mean all Minmater or greasy hobo's ?
Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#80 - 2012-06-08 11:49:28 UTC
It's a game. Also, if I wasn't Caldari. I'd be Minmatar or Khanid. Gallente are the worse race in this game. They've done many terrible things and have buttered it over. Caldari are not bullsh!ters and we don't care what your religion is and if you're a slave or not. As long as you fallow the rules, work and help the state by helping yourself. We all win. Let those frog, cheese eating losers sit around and talk about what their going to do. Cal auctually go out and do it and do it well.

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ！[/u]