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Tangra Ahmak
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-10-05 13:08:08 UTC
Stupid question time...

I have joined channels which say I have joined EVE Voice but I don't hear anyone talking in any of the channels - I have headphones with microphone and the test says that everythng is working - are people just not using EVE Voice or is something wrong with my set up.

I have no experience of using TS or other voice systems so am a bit of a loss to know what to expect.

Help appreciated.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-10-05 13:19:24 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
You won't hear much people on EVE voice for only 1 reason.

It sucks (sorry CCP, don't ban me for giving my opinion P)

It has lag most of the time and the quality is also not great. Most people in corps or alliances us out of game voice comms like Teamspeak 3, Ventrillo or Mumble as they are way better / more reliable which is nesassary when doing PvP.

When we have problems with our TS3 server (which happens occasionally) we fall back to EVE voice until the problem is fixed, but I'm honost, those times on usually means we dock our PvP fleet and wait till problem is fixed.

EDIT:

ticked the box to receive notifications, which should auto be ticked IMHO (another thing to do CCP, will also get rid of all those Forum-warriors that troll a lot of posts as they will get bombarded with notifications)

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Damiez
Malum Mortuus
#3 - 2011-10-05 14:38:04 UTC
Eve voice can be ok for some situations but any serious comms are on TeamSpeak and their alternatives. Get disconnected from eve voice and you may not know about it for some time.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2011-10-05 17:53:04 UTC
Ya not many people use EVE voice as compared to things like Teamspeak

but my channel does use it on occasion and I've been a member of a channel for the past two years that has used EVE Voice heavily in that time.

It isn't really all that bad as people let on hehe.

But ya your problem is very likely to be simply that no one is talking. Just poke people around in text chat to let them no that you are even on voice (you don't see the speech bubble indicators unless you are also on voice, so unless you say something the text-only chat people won't even know)

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Tangra Ahmak
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-10-05 18:29:02 UTC
Great thanks for the replies - i will keep listening in but will have to get to grips with TS.
ChaseTheLasers
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#6 - 2011-10-05 19:51:41 UTC
Eve Voice, quality wise is one of the best out there IMO. We've used TS, Vent and Mumble over the years and Eve Voice has offered us the most consistent clarity of peoples voices by quite some margin (even after playing with the codec settings).

Sadly, it's unreliable and offers pretty much no administration features for fleets. Something as simple as muting someone for an open mic isn't possible. Over the years I've lost count of how many bugs have been introduced into Eve Voice, only for them to take months, and in some cases such as the 'loss of game audio when 2 people talk together' bug, years to fix, even when bug reports have been made.

It's great as a backup for when Mumble (or whatever you're using) goes down, but I couldn't recommend it as a primary method of coms, even for small scale PvP.

At last Fanfest some of the guys who did Eve Voice said they would look into doing a dev-blog about it. Sadly it's never appeared Sad
Sister Ignatia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2011-10-05 23:19:13 UTC
I really haven't had problems with Eve Voice that I couldn't fix with a button or two. It seems to work fine. None of the third party comms are perfect either. All of them use bandwidth exponentially when more than one person talks at a time though they often have higher limits and it seems some better bit rates are available at least on MUMBLE which is my preferred third party for quality. Vent stinks and TS lacks crispness but a good mumble setup is the way to go in my opinion and for my ears tastes.

On eve voice: When you go into channel, you should be able to see voice icons for the other people in channel that have voice activated. If you activate voice but nobody else has, you of course can't talk to somebody that isn't there. If you don't see the icons, ask in chat for someone to go voice.

After you see their icon, look at your won name and test your push to talk key. If its setup properly it will glow when you push it indicating you can speak in channel and will be heard. This assumes your levels are set properly for your particular microphone. If you have a headset, do NOT eat the mic. They are very sensitive, my best setup is with a desk mike almost two feet away and I can whisper if I want if I talk toward the mic.

Sometimes in fleets you may be able to hear but not speak. In the upper right of the fleet hierarchy tab/window are a few buttons to select which channel you speak into, you'll also see little mic icons under fleet wing and squad that you can click.

Often the mic and headphones need to be properly selected in the drop down windows in the escape menues on the audi tab. If you change drivers, cards, or any other audio stuff, these may be set wrong. Also your computer has audio settings for mic and headphone volumes also. I tend to put these at about 3/4 and then the eve stuff like that echo test around 1/2. I always get good mic checks like this cause no single part of the signal chain is being overloaded. The path from your mic to the internet has 3 or 4 amplifiers and converters to get thru unscathed. get the volumes up but not crazy, usually you will be asked to turn down or move the mic away from your mouth.

Hope this helps a bit.
Tangra Ahmak
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-10-06 11:57:00 UTC
Sister Ignatia wrote:
I really haven't had problems with Eve Voice that I couldn't fix with a button or two. It seems to work fine. None of the third party comms are perfect either. All of them use bandwidth exponentially when more than one person talks at a time though they often have higher limits and it seems some better bit rates are available at least on MUMBLE which is my preferred third party for quality. Vent stinks and TS lacks crispness but a good mumble setup is the way to go in my opinion and for my ears tastes.

On eve voice: When you go into channel, you should be able to see voice icons for the other people in channel that have voice activated. If you activate voice but nobody else has, you of course can't talk to somebody that isn't there. If you don't see the icons, ask in chat for someone to go voice.

After you see their icon, look at your won name and test your push to talk key. If its setup properly it will glow when you push it indicating you can speak in channel and will be heard. This assumes your levels are set properly for your particular microphone. If you have a headset, do NOT eat the mic. They are very sensitive, my best setup is with a desk mike almost two feet away and I can whisper if I want if I talk toward the mic.

Sometimes in fleets you may be able to hear but not speak. In the upper right of the fleet hierarchy tab/window are a few buttons to select which channel you speak into, you'll also see little mic icons under fleet wing and squad that you can click.

Often the mic and headphones need to be properly selected in the drop down windows in the escape menues on the audi tab. If you change drivers, cards, or any other audio stuff, these may be set wrong. Also your computer has audio settings for mic and headphone volumes also. I tend to put these at about 3/4 and then the eve stuff like that echo test around 1/2. I always get good mic checks like this cause no single part of the signal chain is being overloaded. The path from your mic to the internet has 3 or 4 amplifiers and converters to get thru unscathed. get the volumes up but not crazy, usually you will be asked to turn down or move the mic away from your mouth.

Hope this helps a bit.


Really helpful - exactly what I was looking for. Many thanks indeed.