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We Aren't Trying Hard Enough

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Greyscale Dash
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-06-08 00:21:27 UTC
Apparently the survey results indicate that most people do two very naughty things.

1. play solo
2. are pve only.

In fact, only about 1/4 of all players are interested in the pvp aspects of the game.


This is unacceptable.
We obviously aren't trying hard enough to force them into lo sec.

Time to step up the ganking. They resist, but once they lose some hulks and are forced down they'll enjoy the game.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-06-08 00:24:42 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:

Time to step up the ganking.

This is a good idea, we'll take it under advisement.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-06-08 00:25:05 UTC
Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect.Big smile
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#4 - 2012-06-08 00:25:48 UTC
I mostly solo play PvE in the game, but I also post on the General Discussion. That's where the hardcore PvP is at.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Solhild
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-06-08 00:27:12 UTC
Interesting.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-06-08 00:27:43 UTC
Thought the PvP thing was "Why they subbed" and not "What they mostly do"
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2012-06-08 00:28:52 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Thought the PvP thing was "Why they subbed" and not "What they mostly do"

You're expecting an EVE player to be able to read charts correctly? Really now.
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-06-08 00:29:18 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Thought the PvP thing was "Why they subbed" and not "What they mostly do"


Statistics - all in the interpretation.
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#9 - 2012-06-08 00:30:10 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect.Big smile


No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-06-08 00:32:04 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect.Big smile


No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof.


Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-06-08 00:33:28 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect.Big smile


No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof.


Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it.



Wouldn't be a big loss.

brb
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-06-08 00:34:02 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect.Big smile


No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof.

Name activities that players can participate in that aren't PVP in Eve online.

Let's see.

1) Ship spinning
2) WiC (Walking in Closets)

Yep.

That's some compelling non-pvp content, let me tell you!
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#13 - 2012-06-08 00:34:29 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect.Big smile


No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof.


Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it.


Well see, CCP did not make this game to placate only a small portion of the gaming community. I bet CCP wants to make tons of money. Your few dollars would mean squat if they gained 10k players.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-06-08 00:36:17 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
Ginseng Jita wrote:


Well see, CCP did not make this game to placate only a small portion of the gaming community. I bet CCP wants to make tons of money. Your few dollars would mean squat if they gained 10k players.


Except that the only thing keeping this game from falling on its face is the player generated content aka nullsec. EVE is built around nullsec. Everything, until recently, existed to support nullsec and gently nudge players towards it.

Edit: Pyramid quoting removed - ISD Stensson

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-06-08 00:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
masternerdguy wrote:


Except that the only thing keeping this game from falling on its face is the player generated content aka nullsec. EVE is built around nullsec. Everything, until recently, existed to support nullsec and gently nudge players towards it.

Then all is a lie and this game is as linear as any other. Time to abandon all illusions of choice, limited as they were and abandon ship then?

Edit: Pyramid quoting removed - ISD Stensson
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-06-08 00:39:29 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:

Then all is a lie and this game is as linear as any other. Time to abandon all illusions of choice, limited as they were and abandon ship then?


Nullsec is the purest part of the EVE sandbox.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-06-08 00:39:49 UTC
Original dev reasoning for the nudge was admittedly load-balancing.

Other than that they really didn't have any reasons for these "nudges."

Sandbox, etc.

But they also left suicide ganking in on-purpose so that nowhere would be "truly safe."
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-06-08 00:40:48 UTC
It's hard to PvP and surf pron at the same time Sad

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#19 - 2012-06-08 00:41:32 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
masternerdguy wrote:


Except that the only thing keeping this game from falling on its face is the player generated content aka nullsec. EVE is built around nullsec. Everything, until recently, existed to support nullsec and gently nudge players towards it.


If all the people in null-sec left, others would move in and take their place. The game is not all about null-sec. Never has been. It is because of this fact that a few. like yourself that whine and moan about the rest of the game, that the rest of the game is constantly being shelved to address a small percentage of players. There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more.

Edit: Pyramid quoting removed - ISD Stensson
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-06-08 00:41:46 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect.Big smile


No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof.


Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it.


Holy crap, now there's an endorsement.
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