Intergalactic Summit

Question:
You are Displeased by the Existence of Stations in Ani Constellation (And Elsewhere), belonging to the Amarr corporation Joint Harvesting (and others).

Is that Correct ?


If those stations were Removed or Transferred, would you also wish to see the Stations in Amarr space belonging to the Republic Security Service, Core Complexion Inc., Freedom Extension, or other Republic Corporations, similarly Removed or Transferred ?

If Not, Why Not ?

I can fully understand and even respect your viewpoint and I am saddened to hear of either the impotence or the insouciance of your Republic patrols to stop slavery within its borders. I would ask, however, if there is a particular reason you would remove Republic business assets and operations from Caldari space?

It is a mutually beneficial arrangement from a business perspective. The Caldari State may be in cooperation with your enemy, but even enemies maintain an open trade agreement sometimes. Cooperative business between the Caldari State and the Minmatar Republic could benefit both peoples extensively as well as lead to further cooperation in other areas.

It is something to consider, at least.

You make valid points and I can see your line of reasoning. As much as it would sadden me personally to see a retraction in this manner, I would see it as an opportunity to try and forge new partnerships.

I don't want to see Amarr corporation assets removed from Ani constellation.

I want them removed from existence.

No Murientor has advocated genocide. That is clever propaganda foisted upon the readers of this discussion. We can dance around that again, but no need to as it's been discussed and dismissed

And this ladies and gentlemen is true face of the Minmatar nationalist.

They don't care about "their" people, but they do care about destroying Amarrian property.

So now you don't want to 'get rid' of the Nefantar and their legacy, you only wish for them to go to another part of the republic.
Careful there kiddo, if you backpedal much faster you might end up running into a bulkhead.

It should be noted, that contrary to your apparent belief, the Nefantar people spent over 125 years after the Day of Darkness, standing side by side with the other six clans on Pator, defending against constant slave raids by the Amarrians, and losing millions of their own people to such raids, The treachery came after their return to the Ani constellation, and the Hjoramold system in particular, and more importantly, after the attempted genocide upon Starkman prime.

It was this 'treachery' that had been designed by the elders, the elders of the Kurusal, Brutor, Sebiestor, Veherikor, Thukker and Nefantar clans, (at this time, the Starkmanir elders were believed to be dead.) to ensure the survival of the remaining Starkmanir.

This treachery had to be believeable. by all, including their former enemies, the Amarrian empire. It had to be believeable enough to hide the fact that so many of the slaves they had taken were of a lineage that the Amarrian leadership at the time had decided to kill, as a message to all the Matari people. You cannot deny that it worked.

Ssakaa, you do not have the monopoly on hurt, I was there for my mother's final hours, She died from Vitoxin poisoning. Her daughters, MY SISTERS died due to the breeder pits, Temuli was only 18 when she died birthing the bastard child of an amarrian holder. She was 15 when they took her to the pits. Hoelun was 22 when they discarded her as useless, and for the last 4 years of her life she would wake screaming and panic whenever any man came too close.

My father was killed when he tried to stop them taking his 15 and 17 year old daughters to be used as whores and i was almost killed along with him.

If, after all that, I can see how our elder's plan worked and you cannot, you are more blinded by useless rage than is healthy for anyone. Control your hatred, channel your anger or in the end, they will control you.

But what do I know. I'm just an old man. I have seen hatred, love and everything between. I have felt the greatest of joy, and the deepest of hurt, walked the edge of madness more than once and yet, with the spirits as my guide, i see a chance for our people. That chance will not be born out of hate, but from justice.

Do not confuse one for the other, down that route lies only destruction and war unending.

Never have eight syllables looked so much in love as these do, little starry eyed things that they are.

Even Rodj Blake says, 'awww!' and he's one of the other lot.

This means that finally -finally! Minmatar Nationalism has returned to the fold of the pan-galactic encyclopedia, as it deserves to.

Any takers?

Thought not, and yet anyone is welcome to try if they dare. But if our friend Dilaro is any indication, there's some very clever propagandists out there spewing nonsense on a daily basis -drip drip drip -and it's working. Layer upon layer, it is believed. Accepted. The 'truth' infallible.

Until now.

Some of us fully intend to continue to expose lies wherever they may be found, inasmuch that they attempt to cripple our future even as they attempt to deceive us as to our past, as it actually happened.

Someone, and a plague upon all their houses, wants you to believe otherwise. Perhaps the the n*f*n*a* are already inside the gates, as long guessed at, plotting and scheming and whispering sweet nothings in your ear.

And you of the Republic let them in, with open arms?

I hope you do not rue the day.

Ssakaa, firstly, you claim 'victory' in this when only two hours had passed since your fellow murentior had posted. Surely you must understand that some of us have other things to do rather than watch IGS with an almost religious zeal.

Secondly, it will take a short time to correctly word a response to your fellow tribe member, who, while also blinded by hatred like yourself, at least has the ability to speak in a well reasoned and understandable manner.

crow all you like about how the nefantar have personally hurt you. We both know that they could not call themselves that until a little over 3 and a half years ago when the elders brought them to the sanctuaries. to even mention their old tribal name would have invited Amarrian inquisition and risked the lives of the Starkmanir.

You still don't get it do you. Your own tribal elders have stated that it was their plan. the six remaining clan elders called out to their Nefantar kin and called them home, along with the Starkmanir. You are calling the elder of the Kurusal a liar.

Does it make you feel proud?

Ezra, please grant me some time to read again your words and explain how i personally see our histories. if you so wish we can speak privately regarding this. I will respond on here if i don't hear back from you soon.