EVE General Discussion

Warpable by who? You fleeted with your gankers?

Rifter can hit 2200 m/s with AB...

Ok, but suggesting changes to make high sec even more safe than it already is is a delicate matter. It's one thing to ask for more ehp on a mining barge or faster concord response, etc. Those are tweaks to current game mechanics. It's another thing to suggest that the game mechanics start punishing activities that have been part of the eve experience since day one.


Ok, which is why you could be a voice for more ehp barges, faster concorde, more sec rating hit for high sec ganking, etc. But to ask for people to get stuck in a jail is ridiculous. If they are violating the Eula then they get banned. If you said the ban for a Eula violation would entail a logon ability but no ability to communicate with other players or leave the CQ (with all the compfy chairs removed ) I could support that.

Hulk can warp faster than a rifter can fly out there.

And I take it you have access to probes that will get a ping before it warps off.

Sorry, forgot that it's actually 2800+ m/s.

Just saying that warping to something without fleet is possible.

Also exhumers have a baaaaad align time. Plenty of time, if the the probes are out from the beginning and the scout gets a 100% hit right away.

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I don't. I am not a ganker nor an expert combat prober, but I believe it's possible - depending on the align time etc.

Ok you are a very new player. And maybe noone has ever clued you in. So i'm going to walk you through the steps of creating an insta undock. First you . . .

Aw **** it, no I'm not. I have faith that you can figure it out if you think about it a little more. You can do it.

Ahh, yet another transplant from WoW who is only capable of seeing the world in black and white and still has a pathological sense of honor. You probably get some sort of satisfaction from other games from white knighting, perhaps you are looked up to for being honest and forthright and belong to a guild called "The magical good-ship lollypop".

Welcome to EVE, where scamming, stealing, ganking, spying, and griefing are not only allowed, but encouraged by CCP. This isnt like other games where you are the hero, slaying all the evil minions that the server can generate, there are millions of shades of gray where you might Awox a corp one day and take pity on a noob the next, giving him some ISK and advice about how to stay out of trouble.

We trust no one, we take advantage of the foolish, we commit various acts of terrorism for an infinite number of reasons. And yet, we cheer like morons on comms when we do something awesome, working towards a common goal. Then we turn around and betray those morons by cleaning out the alliance coffers.

Nothing in EVE is without risk. The minute you undock your mining ship, you could lose it, and that is the way the game is intended. However, there are ways to mitigate your risk. The problem is that nobody wants to do it, mainly out of laziness or some mistaken belief that it is somehow unfair that they have to protect themselves and they are going to keep mining purely out of spite.

This is the way EVE is, its been this way for the 6 years since you created your character. If you want to play, immerse yourself and learn to protect your assets. Accept EVE for what it is instead of bitching constantly about the terrible unfairness of the rules. Learn to make the rules work in your favor. It is only when you accept this will you actually enjoy the game.

TL;DR: I like boobs.

Get a badger and park it on the perimiter gate in jita and see long long it takes for someone to kill you. Make a note of everyone that just passes you by. Then take another badger out to low sec and park it on a busy gate. Count how long it takes for someone to kill you and the amount of people who pass you by. Do the same for a busy 0.0 gate.

This will show you how effective high sec is.