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Human life is anything but "sacred". Don't you agree?

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Parsee789
Immaterial and Missing Power
#1 - 2012-06-07 08:13:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Parsee789
There are billions of people who live in this world, 60 are born every second and 50 die every second. Thousands die everyday yet people continue on with their lives without even a single blink or a thought.

People claim that human life is sacred but live contrary to those ideals. People waste food when millions are starving, create pollution that damage the living areas of other people, start wars to for self gain, etc.

From what I see this ideal is a farce it is propaganda that conditions you to accept the laws created by society and civilization. It makes you feel like you have importance and significance, which makes you more willing to serve society and its people.

Human life is anything but sacred, you die, there will be other people to replace you. You are just a number. EVE is what i see as a perfect reflection of human nature.

People kill, steal, cheat, and lie to get ahead. I too myself have done the same thing.

Human life is no different from any other animal's life. Humans are arrogant, they don't want to admit they are the same as animals.

The majority of human are week and meek, they create ideals and rules that comfort them. The ideal that human life is sacred gives them protection by creation of laws. Anything to prevent those superior from replacing them.

As a result humanity has become weak, the weak survive and breed more weak people. It is the cause of many problems in this work, famine, disease, war, etc are a result of weak perpetuating.

Order is comfort for the Weak. The Weak deserve only comfort in Death.
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-06-07 09:03:55 UTC
Parsee789 wrote:
There are billions of people who live in this world, 60 are born every second and 50 die every second. Thousands die everyday yet people continue on with their lives without even a single blink or a thought.

People claim that human life is sacred but live contrary to those ideals. People waste food when millions are starving, create pollution that damage the living areas of other people, start wars to for self gain, etc.

From what I see this ideal is a farce it is propaganda that conditions you to accept the laws created by society and civilization. It makes you feel like you have importance and significance, which makes you more willing to serve society and its people.

Human life is anything but sacred, you die, there will be other people to replace you. You are just a number. EVE is what i see as a perfect reflection of human nature.

People kill, steal, cheat, and lie to get ahead. I too myself have done the same thing.

Human life is no different from any other animal's life. Humans are arrogant, they don't want to admit they are the same as animals.

The majority of human are week and meek, they create ideals and rules that comfort them. The ideal that human life is sacred gives them protection by creation of laws. Anything to prevent those superior from replacing them.

As a result humanity has become weak, the weak survive and breed more weak people. It is the cause of many problems in this work, famine, disease, war, etc are a result of weak perpetuating.

Order is comfort for the Weak. The Weak deserve only comfort in Death.


If it is the "weak" that survive, they are not really weak are they?
Alara IonStorm
#3 - 2012-06-07 09:21:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Parsee789 wrote:
There are billions of people who live in this world, 60 are born every second and 50 die every second. Thousands die everyday yet people continue on with their lives without even a single blink or a thought.

People claim that human life is sacred but live contrary to those ideals. People waste food when millions are starving, create pollution that damage the living areas of other people, start wars to for self gain, etc.

From what I see this ideal is a farce it is propaganda that conditions you to accept the laws created by society and civilization. It makes you feel like you have importance and significance, which makes you more willing to serve society and its people.

Too black and white. People are conditioned to follow an orderly society but in a more free society you can question the will of the few. Look how much changes and how different things are from 100 years before.

Their is more then enough food to feed the entire world 5 times over and the reason people starve is warlordism and hoarding in third world nations as well as a lack of basic infrastructure. We can't just teleport the food to a small off the map village in the middle of nowhere with no roads or vehicles to get it there. Very, very few people starve in a society of plenty and often the barrier is not the lack of will to feed the impoverished but that they do not know where to go to get the help. Mental illness plays a big part of that as well as depression.

As for the environment have you seen the humongous amount of work Eco campaigns do. Our society just didn't start producing pollution yesterday The industrial era jumped in before we knew the risk. It takes as much time to undue all that has been built as it does to build it and it is hugely expensive to do so. The services provided by industry are what got us out of the middle ages and we need to figure out how to make them clean, not give up on them We don't even have all the technology and some times when we do can not just afford to implement it immediately. It needs to happen in steps or when we can produce the technology cheaper.

Parsee789 wrote:

Human life is anything but sacred, you die, there will be other people to replace you. You are just a number. EVE is what i see as a perfect reflection of human nature.

People kill, steal, cheat, and lie to get ahead. I too myself have done the same thing.

Human life is no different from any other animal's life. Humans are arrogant, they don't want to admit they are the same as animals.

Is Einstein just a number? Hawking? Fleming? Bell? Edison? Ford?

You can not accurately gauge potential. Anyone can impact the world and we move forward on these ground breaking discoveries in leaps and bounds.

No humans are not arrogant for trying to be above the idea of value in life we are visionaries for it. What other creature has accomplished what we have. No life is not at too high a value right now but that doesn't mean we should stop it means we should push forward educating and expanding. We need to confront the boundaries nature puts up and conquer them.

Parsee789 wrote:

The majority of human are week and meek, they create ideals and rules that comfort them. The ideal that human life is sacred gives them protection by creation of laws. Anything to prevent those superior from replacing them.

As a result humanity has become weak, the weak survive and breed more weak people. It is the cause of many problems in this work, famine, disease, war, etc are a result of weak perpetuating.

Order is comfort for the Weak. The Weak deserve only comfort in Death.

America at the beginning of World War II was not on list of the 10 most powerful militaries by the end they topped it. That is what the weak and meek can do, rise.

Order is not the comfort of the weak it is the breeding ground for the strong, allows education, innovation and technology to grow. It festers the will to fight for what you have.

What your the strong survive idea gets you central Africa where they are to busy hacking each other up with Machetes to grow power.

As the value of Human Life raises so does society, when it lowers that is when people are weak.
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#4 - 2012-06-07 12:59:17 UTC
Didn't know Brevik played eve
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-06-07 14:03:03 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:

America at the beginning of World War II was not on list of the 10 most powerful militaries by the end they topped it. That is what the weak and meek can do, rise.



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Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
#6 - 2012-06-07 15:19:39 UTC
In my experience, the universe doesn't seem to hold human life as sacred. However, that doesn't mean that humanity shouldn't at least attempt to do so.
Rajan Marelona
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-06-07 16:04:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Rajan Marelona
Human life is sacred as long as it furthers your own interests or those of the ones you care about, and when it does not, who cares, you can always find some excuse as to why some lives are not that sacred.

Welcome to Salusa Secundus, where the strong survive instead of the weak. Have a nice day.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-06-07 16:20:11 UTC
Wrayeth wrote:
In my experience, the universe doesn't seem to hold human life as sacred. However, that doesn't mean that humanity shouldn't at least attempt to do so.


We do... by killing everyone with dissenting opinions Big smile

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Aooz
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-06-07 17:07:28 UTC
I think all life which has achieved consciousness or autonomy is "sacred" or whatever you want to call it. Life is a "miraculous", rare and fleeting part of the universe and can only exist for short periods of time.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#10 - 2012-06-07 17:07:39 UTC
I don't think you'd like the end result of a culture which no longer valued human life.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Rajan Marelona
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-06-07 17:08:44 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I don't think you'd like the end result of a culture which no longer valued human life.

Not valuing any individual's life and not valuing human life in general are two different things.
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
#12 - 2012-06-07 18:32:02 UTC
Human life is as sacred as anything else that has been deemed sacred with a few exceptions, and seeing as Sacred is one of those "self-defining" things like Beauty, I say live and let live, just leaves more people to annoy.

Resident Haruhiist since December 2008.

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Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#13 - 2012-06-08 02:47:25 UTC
Parsee789 wrote:
People kill, steal, cheat, and lie to get ahead. I too myself have done the same thing.


Parsee789 wrote:
People kill, steal, cheat, and lie to get ahead.


Parsee789 wrote:
People kill


Parsee789 wrote:
People kill. I too myself have done the same thing.



ShockedShockedShocked

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-06-08 03:16:46 UTC
Yup people kill, I just killed a cockroach I found interloping into my personal space Evil

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-06-08 11:45:16 UTC
OP thinks he is the super nerd from Chronicle

"I am an Apex Predator. Does the lion feel bad killing the gazelle? Do people feel remorse when they kill a fly?"

You are not an apex predator, you are an unemployed teenager drinking mountain dew and eating twinkies in your mothers basement

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-06-08 14:03:46 UTC
Don't think human life is any more sacred than any other kind of life. No more precious than a cow's life or a dandelion's life. Humans go through the birth to death cycle like anything else. Think the bigger point is not to wreck the person's spirit and happiness during the time he/she is alive. The life itself part isn't sacred, it's going to end anyway.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-06-08 15:13:31 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
Don't think human life is any more sacred than any other kind of life. No more precious than a cow's life or a dandelion's life. Humans go through the birth to death cycle like anything else. Think the bigger point is not to wreck the person's spirit and happiness during the time he/she is alive. The life itself part isn't sacred, it's going to end anyway.


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leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-06-10 05:39:23 UTC
I don't feel that life should not be held as a good thing. but I do think that when it's appropriate, death is a good solution. bringing back the death penalty and making it something that's more frequently used would be an excellent deterrent to crime.
as to those that are saying "oh, if it's not you, your family, or your friends, they don't matter" no, if I were to lose a friend or family member to something like this, I would be disappointed, but it's part of the proper process, so I see it as the continuation of proper law.
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-06-10 15:11:28 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Parsee789 wrote:
People kill, steal, cheat, and lie to get ahead. I too myself have done the same thing.


Parsee789 wrote:
People kill, steal, cheat, and lie to get ahead.


Parsee789 wrote:
People kill


Parsee789 wrote:
People kill. I too myself have done the same thing.



ShockedShockedShocked


Maybe he was in the military? After all, they train killers there and send them off to murder people to further someone else interests, and somehow that is a "noble" profession.
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
#20 - 2012-06-10 20:17:54 UTC
I like science because it allows you to look at everything in our universe as it really is. But the closer we look the harder is to figure out what 'reality really is'. In particular there have been some ideas thrown in the last century's scientific theories that were really astonishing, not to say absurd to understand from our miserable perspective. For instance, what Heisenberg said (making Einstein really disappointed btw) is that the closer we look to a certain aspect of the whole, the more we are distorting the 'rest of the whole', this said in very poor words, sorry for that.
Even before, in the 19th century I guess, Huygens described any single point in a wave propagating in matter, as a source of other waves phased with the main one. Hard to figure out how it works 'really' but that's how it is in fact. Not to mention sub-atomic physics and the most recent discoveries of the dark matter and all the rest.

What I mean is: don't look to close at things because if you'll get too close you'll find yourself alone with your perception and not with 'the whole'. Second: nothing is an endpoint in this universe, but a starting point for something else. Keep looking for what's next if you can or die trying.

Last but not least: all you said has been told you or you found it somewhere else. Are you sure that's what you think? I'm not.

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