EVE General Discussion

The boundaries seems to be getting more and more blurred. You are allowing any one and everyone to go anywhere and everywhere and do whatever they like without consequence.

Fine lets just remove securtiy altogether because quite frankly its meaningless and pointless, because game mechanics allows you to circumvent said 'supposed restrictions'

Low sec you can tank gate guns EASILY. If you are deliberately shooting stuff in low sec well you dont really care what happens.
High sec well you can gank anything EASILY with little consequence, and the fact is your probably ganking noobs and non pvpers so they probably wont even fight back, and probably cant becuase they wont be fit for pvp.

The restrictions that the supposed low sec/high sec have against offenders as stated is pointless because they can EASILY get passed it.

In low sec again i can easily kill a ship in say a nano cane on the gate and still have time to grab the loot and get away before i even hit say half shields and thats solo!

If you want to make eve a complete pvp only game then remove the superficial barriers and stop pretending that there are consequences to your actions when frankly there is none. Stop pretending to high sec players they are fairly safe by creating artificial boundaries. Because when all said and done we all pratically liv ein a nullsec environment where anyone can be killed and anytime.

Either make REAL consequences and make it harder for people to gank in highsec/low sec or remove it altogether

Wow you have anger issues...counselling that way ---->

Did you know that Features and Ideas is also ----> that way? Better take this thread there.

1. This should have been posted in F&I.





2. going "outlaw" (i.e. -5.00 sec status) makes one a valid target for anyone, anywhere, at anytime without CONCORD intervention. How about you give them the consequences of going outlaw, hmm?

Try using an interceptor in low sec.


Nothing wrong with that.


Whereas you can easily avoid war decs, something needs to be done or rampant high sec production with little ship destruction will lead to a market crash and serious mudflation.

You cannot simply remove a major source of ship destruction and expect it to not have consequences.


Please, engage me solo on gate in low sec in a nano cane. I dare you. I double dare you.

A nano cane doesn't have sebos, so only thing you're going to be catching is other battle cruisers and larger. Which will destroy you when they have an extra 350 DPS on their side.


And stop shitting up our forums with these crappy badly thought out posts.

1) WHo said its up to the players? The problem is Tippia you always force your views and assume thats what eve is about and thats how it should be. Well sorry but it isnt. I may think its up to CCP to protect me from people not myself. Now that may not be correcty but that would be my view and thus I think that is correct.

2) Why do you always have to be so pedantic? You know damn well what I am trying to say but yet as always you try to manipulate. Yes 'technically' there are consequences but in reality you can overcome thosesaid consequences very easily. But clearly you havent really understoon what I was saying. Perhaps if you look at common sense instead of technical detail then that might help you assess what people write.

3) The cost can be relatively miniscule compared to the prize shall we say, hence not balanced. A small group of cheap alpha T3 boats can kill a nice expensive frieghter easily, wiht lovely loot.. Yeah real consequence there then! NOT.

You agian seem to be missing the point, as usual. MY point I am making is dont have pretend restrictions, boundries if in fact they dont really exist. I am happy either way. You also seem to be missing that I personally am I pirate or have been a nullsec dweller, pure pvp. So killing people is what I do. However seeing lame ass pretend pvpers who gank noobs in highsec and then have the cheek to cry about highsec players being carebears is hilarious.

But thats good that I can see the game from all angles and situations and not be just focused on what I want, which is unlike yourself, who seems to be thinking about what he thinks eve should be and how it should work for you.

I could say the same about these type of players, from a pvper perspective these are worse than miners just mining all day, IMO. Basically becuase you are too rubbish to fight with proper guys you want to have the game work so yo can just pick on people who cant fight back.

And dont give me that , well they can fight back cos you get GCC or whatever, its too late you have killed their ****, got their loot and then you just have to wait out kill rights and infact they prob never see you again anyway!

I think that the time has come to colonise W-space and turn it into the new nullsec. Let these whining highsec shitbag publords have New Eden.

• Gradually allow sovereignty in C1-C4 W-space, rebranded to W-null
• Allow the construction of outposts and stargates (not private jump bridges) in WH sov.
• Never allow supercaps or CSAAs into the new W-null, let it remain un-spoiled by supercaps and hotdrops.
• Allow WH stabilizing structure to preserve links to New Eden should you ever feel the need to go back, or rescue people.
• Open up new, deeper traditional and higher class W-space for further exploration and preservation of current WH gameplay.

Flame on!

Actually thats not a bad idea...

Correction eve has severley stagnated in the past few years, even with all the new content and updates. And yes it is down to new players not staying its a simple fact/ Mos tof the growth in numbers is down to people have more alts and muliple accounts, especially as the growht of supers and titans requires a second accont.

Get you head out of the sand. Again when you all leave and there are no new players fillin gthe gaps guess what happens to eve.

Theres is a little thing called retention, without a good rentention policy your business model becomes less viable.

Uhh... CCP did. CCP said it's up to the players.




Mitigate != Overcome



Mitigate != Overcome. There are consequences (player enforced, of course) to flying a Piñata.



The restrictions and consequences are real, otherwise people would be flying the same stuff to gank in HS as they do to Pie in Lowsec.



PvP = Player Vs Player. A gank is just as much PvP as a 1v1 in Ammamake. If you don't enjoy ganking as your style of PvP, that's totally fine. Seriously. No worries. It's not for everyone, and for most people it's not something you can enjoy all the time. Like the Cookie Monster's new view of Cookies. Ganking is a "sometimes" food for most people.

They can fight back because most dedicated gankers/gank alts are -10 by now.