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Bhear
#1 - 2012-06-04 12:14:57 UTC
Greetings everyone!

I've run C3's now for a while (in a Legion) solo and although i manage to take down all sites i would like to make it faster.
Currently i am giving an alt a shot (i always used to run the WH's with a buddy who salvaged and did nothing else - he quit :/)
and i was wondering if it viable to train a loki/legion alt who sits at a SS with with fleet boosters.

I do not know if he can use the boosters while being cloaked - if he cannot do that it is out of the question anyway i think.

Maybe some of you already did that and could share some of your information.

Best regards,
Bhear
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#2 - 2012-06-04 12:47:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Godfrey Silvarna
You need to uncloak in a safe to get the boosts.

In general it is easier to join a corp and do things together rather than soloing.
Bhear
#3 - 2012-06-04 12:49:06 UTC
Fu*k.

Thansk for the info though
Mr Bigwinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-06-04 14:00:10 UTC
You could always have him uncloaked in a safespot and use your main to check directional. That way, if he gets scanned down then you'll see the probes (if you're very active with your directional).

Also, you can have him run mods to make scanning him harder, I won't go into that here though.

To be honest, if anyone is going to get jumped, it is going to be your main and you won't see it coming (on board scan).
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Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-06-04 16:32:16 UTC
also a deep space safespot and have the booster continuously flying off in some random direction may work... no idea though

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.

Geoscape
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-06-04 17:23:47 UTC
You can fit your T3 booster to be almost unscannable by simply fitting two or three of eccm mods on it.
Can't scan down those without using expensive virtue implants, which most people don't have.
Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#7 - 2012-06-05 04:20:37 UTC
Geoscape wrote:
You can fit your T3 booster to be almost unscannable by simply fitting two or three of eccm mods on it.
Can't scan down those without using expensive virtue implants, which most people don't have.


You would be surprised how many people do have them though, with so much money made in WH space enables thos quite easily: http://lfarm.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13497764
Mr Bigwinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-06-05 08:14:34 UTC
Senn Denroth wrote:
Geoscape wrote:
You can fit your T3 booster to be almost unscannable by simply fitting two or three of eccm mods on it.
Can't scan down those without using expensive virtue implants, which most people don't have.


You would be surprised how many people do have them though, with so much money made in WH space enables thos quite easily: http://lfarm.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13497764

Relevant?
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Bhear
#9 - 2012-06-05 09:36:04 UTC
Thank you all for the answers, think i found a way ;)

Fly safe!
Coolsmoke
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-06-05 09:57:30 UTC
OP,
A fully skilled boosting Legion running three T2 links can more than double your main's active tank. It's well worth it, because you can readjust the overtank and add more dps, and downgrade your MAR to a cheap C-Type or even T2.

My fully-skilled alt runs a cloaky scanning boost Legion. It's paper thin, what with 4 Co-Pro's in the lows. But it runs all three T2 armour links and the Skirmish Rapid Deployment link for more speed. Plus he has the Armor Mindlink implant.

Once you've completely scanned down a C3, the booster just needs to find a nice deep safe, point in the direction of an exit, decloak, switch on AB and links, and drop a Deep Space Probe.

Move the probe off d-scan, set to 256AU, scan once and remove all signatures (structures, anoms, sites etc). Scanning once every few seconds (if you can bear it) will immediately pop up any uncloaked ships or new signatures. It's like having a system-wide d-scan for *everything*.

When you're set, jump in your main and commence farming.

My main's Legion runs a T2 MAR and three faction damage mods. It's 72% cap stable (for the FFRD mag site) does 650dps with Conflag, 460 with Scorch, 720dps omnitank and 720m/sec when the alt is boosting.

It's a long haul to fully skill up a T3 booster alt. But even after basic training you'll see great improvements to your main's tank.

And of course.. if you ever want to join a corp, having a well-skilled boosting alt pretty much guarantees your acceptance :)
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#11 - 2012-06-05 10:34:02 UTC
Loki alt with skirmish boosts has its advantages as well. The links are useful for both armor and shield fleets, so the same alt is suited for more situations, and the increased speed and decreased signature radius has a significant impact on the tank of armoured cruisers as well, though not as large as armour links would. As an added bonus, the webifier range increase can be a significant boost to your dps against small targets, especially if it is a faction web you are boosting.

For running sites in an active tanked armour ship, armour links are still better, but in PvP encounters the increased ability to control range you get from skirmish boosts is likely to be the difference between life and death.

In larger corporations the skirmish links become even more important, as the webifier range boost means your rapiers/huginns/lokis can web targets for your dreadnoughts more reliably and thus quarantee more dps delivered. A skirmish boosted rapier webs targets from absolutely astonishing ranges.
Bhear
#12 - 2012-06-05 13:57:28 UTC
Thanks to the both of you.

I will start to train the alt for a Legion first, Loki second. I am kinda curious how well this will go and if its worth it - after all a Legion fitted for solo C3 isn't exactly the cheapest risk to take :P
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2012-06-07 02:45:52 UTC
I make extensive use of booster alts – for PvE combat, PvP, and mining / harvesting.

For my solo / small-group sleeper killing I would run a perfect fleet booster fitted with a siege implant – my sleeper killers were all shield tankers. He would use either a vulture, sitting in a POS and perma-running seven boost modules, or a tengu uncloaked at a safespot running five. IIRC the T3 would provide stronger boosts than the CS with all relevant skills maxed. Each CS / T3 is bonused to provide optimal boosts in one area … distributed along basic racial lines (caldari = shield / seige, Minnie = skirmish, amarr = armor, gallente = information), so vulture / tengu are best for shield / siege boosts.

For my small-ship w-space PvP I often have a booster tengu providing 5 modules of boost (and a skirmish implant). For bomber support I run the three skirmish mods, one info and often one armor / shield. The tengu is not optimised for skirmish boosts but can run one more module than the loki. You could argue that the loki is better because of the increased skirmish boosts, but I am still pretty happy with the non-bonused tengu.

It’s pretty damn impressive how much benefit the boosts provide. IIRC my sleeper shooting ships would gather 25+% more shield HPs and 10+% increase in each resist, as well as greatly improved booster performance, quicker target locks, reduced sig size etc etc. My flimsy little bomber will point a target from over 40km and web / paint them at greatly increased range. Whether it’s PvE or PvP these are brilliant force multipliers.
Of course there’s the counter-argument that I’d be better off using that alt to provide a second DPS ship. That may be so but I kinda like focussing my second-by-second attention on the one active toon and only having to occasionally check the booster dude … DS for probes especially.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-06-07 10:49:37 UTC
If boosters location is very near related to the other ship, a few hundred km but off grid, and if the booster is fitted to have low sig, high sensor strenght, it is very unlikely that a prober gets a scan hit on the booster. Instead he will always scan down the other sip, warp to it expecting to see the two but then only seeing one.Cool