Jita Park Speakers Corner

Well look at you with your opinions.

But really though it does seem like Goons are doing the things you want doing. They're easily the most pro-active 0.0 alliance when it comes to engaging new players into nullsec gameplay, they've fostered multiple smaller alliances into more or less worthwhile sov holders, they continually engage other game factions rather than just squatting in their space, and they agitate for game balance issues like Titan & Technetium rebalancing.

Incidentally, there are 0.0 alliances who aren't part of a massive bluebloc. They mostly live in NPC 0.0, but that's what NPC 0.0 is for. My own dear INITdot is one of them.

Dear Shephard Wong Ogeko,

We can't help noticing that you seem to be under the impression that your personal experience is somehow more "valid" or "real" than the received wisdom of the EVE-O forums NPC corp alt community. Whilst we are naturally glad to hear that you, as an individual, are having a fairly intense, varied 0.0 experience with plenty of PvP, we do ask you to bear in mind that the forum consensus impression of the reality of nullsec life is of course entirely the opposite. In the interests of constructive discourse, we therefore request and require you to refrain from muddying the waters with your so called "facts" and "experience".


Best regards and many thanks,

The EVE-O forum NPC corp alt community.

Nullsec will always have a lower population than Empire. The limitations of player outposts alone will ensure that, plus the greater time/risk overhead of travelling and so on.

The first - the very first - step that needs to be taken is to remove the biggest barriers to nullsec populations actually engaging in local activity other than shooting: buff player outposts so that they're at least as good as NPC stations (they should be better, really, but parity would be a good start) and remove the limit on having one player outpost per system. This change alone would make a radical difference to the life of players who would love to be industrialists, researchers, inventors and so on in 0.0 but who simply can't compete with the greater efficienies of the free, risk-free, highly concentrated infrastructure available in hi-sec.

I thought when the titans were introduced that they were supposed to be so rare due to amount of minerals required to build them that they believed that only a few would ever be in the game.

I meant I thought part of the nerf was because there were only meant to be a handful in the game and that they have proliferated because of bots and RMT.

Botting helped get the resources to make them. Now, those same resources could have gone to build subcaps or fund subcap reimbursement plans for average players. The reason the resources were funneled into supercaps was because they were such an obvious "I win" button. And then it became obvious the only counter to your enemy's Titan was to build yourself 2 Titans. Then it spun out of control like the real world nuclear arms race, and to be a major alliance you had to have fleets of Titans.

That is good news to hear CFC reset someone. Who was it?



****, so we are playing the game wrong again?



They why does some of your friends say it is on the forums every other day?



They removed unknown space? Damn it!



I am more concerned about that 200 man corp having to deal with 6000 man alliance at the same time. Instead of say, the members of that 6000 man alliance that live in the space the 200 man alliance is trying to take. Besides, it is not just the 6000 man alliance they have to deal with. It is everyone who is blue with them as well. So an entire coalition, in the same system, at the same time.

Wow you guys really have no clue what we are saying do you? No one is saying that 200 man corp should be able to mop the floor with that 6000 man alliance, much less them and the giant coalition they are a part of. The entry level and scaling of taking space in null is the issue. POWER PROJECTION, POWER PROJECTION, POWER PROJECTION!!!!! They should be dealing with a section of that. Only a section because the rest of the coalition is having to inhabit the rest of the space they control. Like physically there to regulate **** and I don't mean all dog pilling into one system to shoot some stupid structure and then blob over to another system on the other side of the galaxy to go mentally insane shooting yet, another structure.

No one is wanting new or existing crap mechanics to be what a sov holder has to deal with. Invading AND defending should both be equally rewarding and fun. Who cares what new or existing mechanic is changed as long as it is not some yawn fest to deal with? I am for the removal of local in all space, but in the same stroke I want a new scanner/whatever introduced that is user friendly, not Excel crap, rewarding results that reflect the amount of effort put into using it. Above all it should be 0% - ZERO ******* PERCENT - boring! Who the hell wants to pay someone money to do something boring? No one wants boring!

I feel like I am talking to a brick wall.

It is great you are having fun resetting those buddies of yours.. I just feel like you are not on the level of discussion about null and other mechanics. You are only seeing the tip and I am talking about the entire iceberg. Unfortunately this forum is the worst medium to discuss all the issues due to CCP letting trolls do whatever they want. So trying to have a civil and intellectual conversation/debate about anything is just pointless. I guess they think that letting the forums go to absolute **** makes the game more hard core and marketable in that sense.

its funny you mention that the insistence is by a few people when those arguing against seem to be just as small, that statement really comes from politics 101, if you repeat something enough times people will believe wether its true or not.

only seems to be a certain segment of 0.0 that wants to keep (see what i did there? Two can play that game.)

Anyway how many times do you use local to do the thing is was designed for e.g chat? Local is used as a pure free intel tool and nothing else? people mentioned titans being nerfed because they were doing things they were not designed to do, so what's The difference with the intel channel? Sorry local?

Rarely, but it does get used. Either way, it's a moot point as I don't have the slightest problem with local being a free intel channel, as it works both ways and keeps the tedium level of both living and hunting in null to manageable levels.

Besides, the reason I call it a troll is that 99% of the advocates just keep saying "remove local", oftentimes with no replacement for it at all, or some nebulous words about some kind of scanner to replace it (again, with no details about how it'd actually work). That's why it gets a vitriolic reaction from anyone who actually LIVES in null - you don't need to look any farther than the drone regions to find out what happens when CCP takes something major away and doesn't add an adequate replacement.