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Hi-sec ganking IS griefing
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2012-06-07 09:43:21 UTC
Threads like these should be considered as griefing.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#62 - 2012-06-07 09:54:53 UTC
Klandi wrote:
Wrong -
CCP made the game
YOU forced me to play this way so YOU are to blame


Welcome, to the sandbox *wavvy hands*

If you don't like this, there is the door *shows boot*

Honestly you come into a game that thrives on conflict and then you start to complain sometimes people shoot you...

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#63 - 2012-06-07 10:00:50 UTC
EVE Roy Mustang wrote:
Frederick Sanger wrote:
Maybe you should move to null sec. Or just continue with your bad posting, poor hypothetical scenarios and dumb conclusions. Whatever.


lol all the usual countertrolls. Hi, Tippia


Tippia gains yet another altStraight
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#64 - 2012-06-07 10:04:07 UTC
Rico - your're a sweetie, taking up a collection for me and other "afflicted". Just transfer all of it to me and I will see that those that need it will get it.

Ptraci - let me address your issues directly
I address the griefing issues surrounding the likes of hulkageddon - where it seems that because I play a certain way, I have restriction placed on how I do things - and I was also bringing into the dialogue how I did not create the situation. Profit and loss feature in my gameplay to the extent that I more or less rely on it to sub my characters.

I prefer to control my own destiny within the game rather than be part of a crowd and to log on and off when it doesn't impact essential operations or other people. I have experienced the joys of a null-sec corp and the truth is you need to be a group if you do anything industrial in null, solely because of the constant interruption from others wanting to kill you or camp your system. But having much better stuff means what? I still have to collect it, then I still have to sell it to get isk and where do I do that? Jita. Chances are that in the run to Jita my JF will get ganked and that is the end of 10-15bils worth of toil and ship.

I am a casual player - Eve does not cater for the casual player and I am not laying that at the feet of CCP - but the other players as you created the way it is.
Take responsibility!!!

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#65 - 2012-06-07 10:09:49 UTC
Klandi wrote:


I am a casual player - Eve does not cater for the casual player and I am not laying that at the feet of CCP - but the other players as you created the way it is.
Take responsibility!!!


I bet I am more casual than you and I get along just fine. I am doing the exact same thing as you yet I am thriving and expanding my business while you are here whining how hard it is. Your time would be better spent finding out what you are doing wrong and learning from it.
Uinuva Karma
Doomheim
#66 - 2012-06-07 10:10:21 UTC
Klandi wrote:
I am a casual player - Eve does not cater for the casual player and I am not laying that at the feet of CCP - but the other players as you created the way it is.
Take responsibility!!!


Carebear Canned Argument #3 - "But I'm the only casual player and all the others play EVE 23/7 and get no sex therefore CCP needs to change a 9-year old game to cater to me only"



Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec. 
Smegma Cheesedog
Doomheim
#67 - 2012-06-07 10:13:54 UTC
Crazy Wonderbread woman is a bum hurt carebear.
If she was my woman she would be feelin the back of my hand...
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2012-06-07 10:22:42 UTC
I am a casual player. I make enough isk to support my casual play.

I loose ships but always make enough to replace them.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Lexmana
#69 - 2012-06-07 10:24:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
TL;DR Other players are interfering in MY sandbox. CCP you must ban these griefers or I will unsub my accounts.
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#70 - 2012-06-07 10:39:57 UTC
NO lexmana - other players CREATED the situation in the sandbox and I am dealing with it - just let me get on with it without ganking me!!

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
Bossy Lady
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#71 - 2012-06-07 10:41:36 UTC
Klandi wrote:
NO lexmana - other players CREATED the situation in the sandbox and I am dealing with it - just let me get on with it without ganking me!!


Hmmm... why should you get special treatment?

Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2012-06-07 10:45:03 UTC
you know that description of griefing you got from that other game that's not eve?

That doesn't apply here.

Griefing is something entirely different in eve.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#73 - 2012-06-07 10:52:27 UTC
Klandi wrote:
NO lexmana - other players CREATED the situation in the sandbox and I am dealing with it - just let me get on with it without ganking me!!

The situation you need to be dealing with is getting ganked.

I suggest you check out RubyPortio's fine posts listing some excellent ways of handling this situation(and, admittedly, a few not so excellent, but merely ok, ways)

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#74 - 2012-06-07 10:53:47 UTC
OMGz Soylent Green is PEOPLE!
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#75 - 2012-06-07 11:12:44 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
I agree with the thread title to a point.

Suicide Ganking is fine when done in moderation, it basically is a random event and can be dealt with. However when it becomes the main type of gameplay in high sec and is constantly being done day after day to players who engage in a specific aspect of game content, it steps over the line into griefing and harassment. Plain and simple.

DMC


You should probably come up with some facts and figures that you can back up with documented proof instead of making assumptions, jumping to conclusions and spreading lies, paranoia and mis information.
Lexmana
#76 - 2012-06-07 11:26:16 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Klandi wrote:
NO lexmana - other players CREATED the situation in the sandbox and I am dealing with it - just let me get on with it without ganking me!!

The situation you need to be dealing with is getting ganked.

This. If you spent half the time trying to figure out a better strategy for your EVE project instead of meta-gaming the forums with whine I am sure you will make more ISK and be ganked less. And have more fun too by actually accepting the challenge EVE and its players presents you.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2012-06-07 11:36:29 UTC
Klandi wrote:
In short ,YOU have created my dependency and now you want to punish me for it?
That is griefing...

In short, you played in a big sandbox and don't want anyone else to go near your sandcastle?

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#78 - 2012-06-07 11:42:00 UTC
Klandi wrote:
NO lexmana - other players CREATED the situation in the sandbox and I am dealing with it - just let me get on with it without ganking me!!
It rather sounds like you're not dealing with it.
Why shouldn't they gank you?
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#79 - 2012-06-07 12:13:35 UTC
Klandi wrote:


I am a casual player - Eve does not cater for the casual player and I am not laying that at the feet of CCP - but the other players as you created the way it is.
Take responsibility!!!



I'm a casual player too. Just being a casual player does not mean you can't adapt to the changes in the environment. The only thing being casual does is makes you less likely to be able to change the environment yourself on any significant level. Of course, most 'hard-core' players can't do that either, so the title of 'casual' can't be leaned on for any sort of excuse.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Aodha Khan
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2012-06-07 12:36:57 UTC

Another whining thread....ShockedRoll

Power is not something that is granted - it is something to be taken.