EVE General Discussion

Just killed a guy plexing (guy logged off with aggro, logged back on in a pod).

He was plexing. I won't link the KM (forums rules).

But here's the fit he used from EFT

[Rifter, AFK Plexer]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Nanofiber Internal Structure I
Nanofiber Internal Structure I

Small Shield Booster II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner I

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I

When minmitar can cap plexes (medium and major were on scan) in fits like this and the char was created 2012.05.21, CCP has an issue with the NPCs being unbalanced and the LP farming being well in the favour of the Minmitar militia vs the Amarr.
Similar noises are also coming from the Gallente vs Caldari front.

Additionally, I'd like to point out that making it harder to attack once you start losing systems (occupancy wise, via station lockouts) has had the blatantly obvious (and predicted) result of 90% of the systems flipping to the Minmatar, meaning the people who are supposed to fight have no consistent income source with which to fight back. Genius idea -_-

At least even out the LP conversion ratios- as it is, you're making it harder for the underdogs, and devaluing the LP gained for the winning side as well. Both sides get screwed in alternating cycles. Either you're winning and your LP is devalued, or you're losing and it's ******** expensive LP-wise to buy things. Unless you only buy things when you're winning, then sell them when you're losing (and have the isk to wait for those things to cycle back and forth), you've got a really crappy chance of making isk to fight with.

You've made it harder to gain LP in appreciable quantities, harder to gain items when you're already losing, and therefore harder to justify PVPing and losing ships in the process. You've just shifted the PVE farmers into plexes instead of missions, and devalued the primary income source of people who actually PVP.

This was all predicted by many of the Amarrian FW corp ceos/members far before it happened, and now it has happened, and CCP still gives no flying f's.

Many of the current FW corps are here in spite of the new mechanics purely out of loyalty, and a hope that someday some semblance of balance will come to the FW mechanics.

TL/DR- new FW mechanics can suck a watermelon.

How many systems do they own?
How many of them are empty?
How come you are not doing the same to them?

So go into a plex and wait for a bored minmatar to engage you?

If I were in Amarr right at this very moment I would be in Aset/Turnir round that very quiet area gradually lifting the contention level.

CCP said in some interview big alliances would get in to FW (hem), welp...

Of course it is, if one side can speed tank a major plex the other can kill them to prevent them doing this. Go there and kill them.

Edit: Pyramid quoting removed - ISD Stensson

I said it before and I'll say it again - EVE is one of the worst balanced paid MMOs on the market today. There are so many imbalances in just about every facet of it that after 9 years of development I can only look at it in wide-eyed dismay.

The difference between NPC strength is one - Angels being small sig, very fast, with crazy shielding using missiles and projectiles.
The difference between the EWAR strength is another - Caldari jamming getting more ships killed than any other EWAR in the game.
The difference between weapon systems - rails still suck, drones still not viable as primary system.
The difference between blueprints - Minmatar ones require Industry I, Gallente ones require Industry V for same module.
Etc., etc., etc.
I could compile a list of things that's pages and pages long.

So it's hardly surprising that FW is nowhere near balanced as well. I don't want the game to be all the same, variety is good, but only when it has a semblance of balance to it. Otherwise it's just a mish-mash of a gory mess.

Plexing does need some refinement with respect to NPC power, although the bigger problem inherent in the current system is the entire WZ control scheme. It takes a team effort to upgrade and hold systems, but only a solo effort to knock them back down.

Since, even if a system is stable, its upgrade status is threatened, the payoff for plexing is essentially as follows:

If I choose to offensive plex:
-I get a large amount of LP.
-I reduce the enemy's system upgrade LP by a large amount.
-I move the system closer toward capture.

If I choose to defensive plex:
-I get ****-all for sitting around with my thumb up my ass fpr 10-20 minutes
-I do nothing for the system's upgrade status. I'm not effectively "defending" its upgrade status because a new one will open up in no time at all.
-I move the system away from capture status, unless it's already stable.

So, basically, I get nothing, and my faction gets nothing. It would be more effective for me to completely ignore the defensive plexes in systems that are not heavily contested, and then donate half my income from offensive plexing toward friendly systems to offset any upgrade damage done.

Thus, unless large numbers of people are willing to sit around mindlessly closing plexes in backwater systems for no personal gain until the end of time... and they're not... the system will naturally deteriorate toward T1 for everyone, as very few people are willing to donate enough out of pocket to keep systems ugpraded.

Caldaris are using the same kind of fits (10mn merlin, I have seen 5 different of them in 2 days in the same constellation). They all fly to a safe and logoff if something even appears on dscan. Thanks to my BATTLE BUZZARD I got one.

Gallentes are using 1-day alts in atrons, with a mwd and 2 warp cores, to do the defensive plexes.


This is a bit... boring.