EVE General Discussion

While I appreciate the gesture, I think everyone would be happiest with Goons remaining Goons.

OP does not make sense, there is no double standard at work that I can see, and I think Hulkageddon Infinity is a stupid event, so I would be inclined to agree with him if his logic were better. CCP would undoubtedly like to see more players in null sec and low sec, but that has little or nothing to do with the war dec mechanics. Pegging the cost of a war dec to the size of the alliance or corp is just good sense.

I'd like to find more nasty things to say about the Goons, too, but in this case I'll pass.

The flip side to this is that CCP shouldn't be able to demonise a group of players who have found a legal way to manipulate the market and profit (current GSF/OTEC profiteering from T2 ship losses which is what it's really about (along with Mittani's bruised ego)), and that it should be up to the players in-game to organise a counter to it.

As much as I also think it's lame and damaging to the game, it's within CCP's rules so there's nothing we can do about it besides adapt or quit.

I wouldn't class shooting unarmed mining ships as a war tbh ??

Tal

A deceleration against a body that represents industrialists.


sounds like war to me.

you know if you war dec the gonos, you have like a 6000 all you can eat buffet of potential targets
but if you dec some scrub vanity alliance, you only get 5 and 2 online?

prices seems fair to me lol

Damn! Best thread on GD right now, and I have nothing to add.

Johnny!

why does nobody ever thinks of it like this.

FIrst you start in rookie highsec (1.0->0.8
THen you go to Highsec (8.0->0.5
then you go and wonder around in lowsec ALERT DANGEROUS :) (0.4->0.1
wooohoo nulsec!!!!!!! TIME to kill some fleets AND RESET TEST! (0.o)

so everything is just a step to get you into 0.0 space.

They also have a special Haven For carebears (some times with Teeth) called WH


In 0.0 we have something callled Countering (some cases this is blobing) so Hey you little Miner
FLoating around in space in your hulk at the Veldspar belt Go buy a small pos online it in A wormhole
and start scanning out some gravi sites (c1) You just have to worry about getting fuel and you have your
system alone wheir you can Mine all day,

Stop wining about CCP that they are supporting people to kill you becouse if you do you should be blown out of your
hulk

Ps; if you go into a c1 could i haz the bookmark one day

Uh huh. So, lets say Goons decs a vanity alliance of 5 guys. It costs sod all, and potentially 6,000 people are grieifing the balls off 5 guys. These 6,000 cads can permacamp the 5 guys in station for ever - I mean, surely Goons can afford an endless dec!

But then, oh, wait, the executor man for Vanity alliance logs in and clicks the tickybox "assistance requests enabled". Some dude in MOAR TEARS sees that Goons are at war with some tiny flyspeck alliance, which is looking for help. Double Tap sees this too, when MOAR TEARS man gets in the intel channel and is all like "DAFUQQ DO U SEE DIS?!?!" and the Orphans bloke is like "ME GUSTA!!", MOAR TEARS man is all "INORITE?!?!" and the intel channels blaze into light, and suddenly Vanity Alliance XO, who is crying tears of shame while station spinning in 4-4 has his mail icon flashing like a strobe light, and everyone's offering their help for 0 ISK.

And you know what, he might just accept it.

Given Sudden Buggery was, and this is confirmed, the first corp to lay out and accept an assist in a wardec, I can tell you, a 15 v 50 turned into a 15 v 450 pretty damn quickly once everyone realised you could join wars for free, as long as you were prepared to stick it out till the aggressor decided it was too much of a PITA.

Therefore, sirrah, your argument holds less water than a teabag. I would dare a large entity to pick on a small entity these days without a solid exit strategy lined up.

@ rest of thread: DAFU-Q.Q-Q.Q

Maybe just allow a single person to pay a very small war dec fee to - brace yourselves - war dec another single person. What alliance and corp they are in is irrelevant. I guess your friends can come to remote rep you or whatever like now, but at least it would not be a situation where super large alliances are immune to war decs unless by the insanely rich.

I am drinking right now and I am sure the above is terrible, but thought I would toss it out there anyways. Please poke a ton of holes in it so tomorrow when I read it, I will know how bad of an idea it was. Also point out any good parts so i dont' feel as bad.

Ok off to pass out.