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CCP bit off more then Eve & the DEVs could chew with Escalation & Inferno
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Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-06-06 16:17:00 UTC
The UI was a shocker but Im coming to terms with it, certainly wasnt something to ragequit over.
Incursions wernt nerfed enough, get them out of hisec altogether (and nullsec, make them lowsec only)
Eve Voice is pretty much unnecessary anyway but useful for emergencies.
Drone regions needed teh change but possibly somehtign is wrong and they need to drop more loot.
Meta 0 items. No, they should be built not dropped.


Anything else?
Oh and good work CCP, I love Eve and aim to continue loving Eve until I am too old to log on anymore and have nurses feeding me adn giving me bedbaths.

Keep Eve great, dont give in to whiners.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-06-06 17:03:30 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
The UI was a shocker but Im coming to terms with it, certainly wasnt something to ragequit over.
Incursions wernt nerfed enough, get them out of hisec altogether (and nullsec, make them lowsec only)
Eve Voice is pretty much unnecessary anyway but useful for emergencies.
Drone regions needed teh change but possibly somehtign is wrong and they need to drop more loot.
Meta 0 items. No, they should be built not dropped.


Anything else?
Oh and good work CCP, I love Eve and aim to continue loving Eve until I am too old to log on anymore and have nurses feeding me adn giving me bedbaths.

Keep Eve great, dont give in to whiners.


QFT

I like the new inventory better than the old system. I know I am in the minority but for my uses of it, it's better.

To the person saying, "Now i can buy a typhoon fleet blah blah market is screwed". Go fly the fleet issue then. If the price is barely different and the ship is 3 times better, I don't see the problem?

The market is adjusting, prices on minerals has been screwed up for a long time, the min prices were being artificially held down.

EVE is the best game around, voice your opinions if you must, but quit raging so much ppl.

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#43 - 2012-06-06 17:10:03 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Translation:

"My bots don't work anymore since you changed the UI. On top of that, my bot activities have been nerfed. I hate you and will now cancel some obscene number of alts."


This...though I suspect a few people have figured out how to make it work again. Sad. Took them like a couple of weeks. I know this because the botters that were gone from this one system are back in force. :( Don't say, "How do you know they are botters?" Because nobody plays 23/7.
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#44 - 2012-06-06 17:58:43 UTC
another "un-nerf incursion" thread from Darth
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#45 - 2012-06-06 21:01:27 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
MisterNick wrote:
Best rage i've seen for a while. I wonder what it was that belonged to the OP, which I suspect has recently gone boom.


Nope nuthin' went boom for me. Matter of fact I doubt much anything is going boom for everyone: Inferno was ment to spur Wars but with the ally option and increased prices for BS I doubt the number of Wars has gone up! Quite the opposite I imagine. Unintended consequences popping up everywhere: UI, Incursions, economy, wars, GM petition times...

The day CCP fixes stop sucking is the day they start trying to fix working vacuum cleaners
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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#46 - 2012-06-06 21:16:09 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
MisterNick wrote:
Best rage i've seen for a while. I wonder what it was that belonged to the OP, which I suspect has recently gone boom.


Nope nuthin' went boom for me. Matter of fact I doubt much anything is going boom for everyone: Inferno was ment to spur Wars but with the ally option and increased prices for BS I doubt the number of Wars has gone up! Quite the opposite I imagine. Unintended consequences popping up everywhere: UI, Incursions, economy, wars, GM petition times...

The day CCP fixes stop sucking is the day they start trying to fix working vacuum cleaners

Nothing went boom for Darth, he is a pure high sec care bear and as such doesn't lose ships in any appreciable quantity.


DarthNefarius wrote:
Quite the opposite I imagine. Unintended consequences popping up everywhere: UI, Incursions, economy, wars, GM petition times...

Oh the irony, someone wasting GM time time by submitting petitions concerning incursion nerfs complaining about GM petition times.

Not to mention someone who never PvPs or loses ships complaining about the economy and war mechanics. Also, I guess what with all those incursions you run salvaging and POS management must be a real pain, eh Darth?

Oh wait, you don't salvage and you don't own a POS. Or fight in wars. Or contribute to the economy.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-06-06 21:37:28 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Ursula Thrace wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
-Bring back meta 0 loot ( this shoulda been phased in 1-2 months after the drine nerf not at the same mother @#$ing time dumb arse DEVs!!! )


because insulting people always makes them eager to help you. Roll


After a month & a half of pointing this crap out I'm tired and seeing thier 'eagerness' being nothing more than a lip service in a few petty thread comments I DON'T CARE ANYMORE AND I AM ANGRY AS HELLAttentionAttention
The time for civility has come neigh. Not like the CSM is doing jack for anyone except thier own petty interests at least Mittans was for more of the betterment of Eve in general while he was on the CSM before he got thrown under the bus by CCP


Who is your goon main?
saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-06-06 22:10:26 UTC
Darth is not the only person feeling very disapointed by this last patch, I think the latest tweeks have made alot of people rethink thier investments in the game... Be it playing for x amount of hours.... FUnding by plex what ever. All this has illuminated, well for myself atleast, as many other games before it EVE will eventuialy burn out and die. I know Im certainly not investing the time or effort into the game anymore, as it would make it more heatbreaking when the servers do close. Now the fact CCP seem hellbent on smoking in the petrol station is confusing

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-06-06 22:19:15 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
The Unified Inventory was NOT ready for prime time


It is slightly annoying, but not worth a rollback.

DarthNefarius wrote:

the incursion nerf KILLED whole communities


Making 105mil isk an hour shooting red cross in highsec seems a bit off. Some people are still making a fair bit off incursions, but it was just stupid before the nerf.

DarthNefarius wrote:
the drone/loot nerfs has made the economy outa whack to the point where newbies must be despairing over how many months it'll take them to be able to buy a BS


Gives them something to work towards & a sense of achievement when they do actually get their. Who knows, they might even have the skills to fly it well once they do get it.

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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#50 - 2012-06-06 22:19:40 UTC
CCP is playing the Facebook game with Dust. Instead of saying they have 300K subscriptions, they can say they have 4 million because that will be how many people signed in to Dust with PS accounts. Active or inactive won't matter, it's free but they count as subscriptions giving them the optic of success.

They will then be able to either sell EVE as an IPO or bankrupt it with inflated debt based on free subscriptions. Considering how much money the Facebook is making with no income, I'd say sell the cow is the plan.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#51 - 2012-06-06 22:23:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Simi Kusoni
Ocih wrote:
CCP is playing the Facebook game with Dust. Instead of saying they have 300K subscriptions, they can say they have 4 million because that will be how many people signed in to Dust with PS accounts. Active or inactive won't matter, it's free but they count as subscriptions giving them the optic of success.

They will then be able to either sell EVE as an IPO or bankrupt it with inflated debt based on free subscriptions. Considering how much money the Facebook is making with no income, I'd say sell the cow is the plan.

You are literally one of the dumbest people I have seen on these forums. And I've just read through a thread with DarthNefarius posting in it.

*EDIT: I could just imagine the press release now.

CCP: Yeah, we have like 4 million subscribers for Eve now.
Gaming Press: Wow, you more than quadrupled the subscriber base for a ten year old game in a few short months with no corresponding rise in server activity?
CCP: Yep, we're rolling in it. Nothing suspicious here. INVEST IN US GULLIBLE STOCK HOLDING SCUM.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#52 - 2012-06-06 22:29:16 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
DeBingJos wrote:

  • Incursions needed a nerf, not this much, but CCP confirmed they are reversing some of the nerfs.



    • No not one single DEV has confirmed some the Incursion nerfs will be rolled back or 'reversed'... as matter of fact 1 DEV has closed her last thread & not a word about Incursion 'fixes' has been spoken in the last ~3-4 weeks. Just alot of emptyness I'm sure the FW warriors are familiar with after a few years of complaints


    Whats to fix?
    Ris Dnalor
    Tribal Liberation Force
    Minmatar Republic
    #53 - 2012-06-07 01:19:41 UTC
    DarthNefarius wrote:
    Its time for some pre Inferno rollbacks before we see an Inferno of subscriptions!!! The Unified Inventory was NOT ready for prime time, the incursion nerf KILLED whole communities, the drone/loot nerfs has made the economy outa whack to the point where newbies must be despairing over how many months it'll take them to be able to buy a BS.... and Dust bunnies 90210 is in the pipeline for he summer?
    -IMHO give peeps the option to turn off the Unified Inventory like last year where the ship spinning was brought back.
    -Unnerf the Incursions.
    -Fix EVE voice because Escalation/Inferno really caused it to bomb!
    -Bring back meta 0 loot ( this shoulda been phased in 1-2 months after the drone nerf not at the same -----Edit-----Removed partial sentence using profanity masking. | ISD Tyrozan===== time dumb arse DEVs!!! What you think everyone will buy PLEX to keep up or was that marketings idea over Dr E's objections of sinks over nerfs CCP Soundwave? )

    With DUST bunnies being the dice roll of the future of CCP & its comming soon CCP better act quick on the above or face the consequences like last year. Job futures should be on the line!

    Please avoid using profanity or partial masking.

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    • Qolde
    Selinate
    #54 - 2012-06-07 01:23:58 UTC
    why the hell do people like highsec incursions? It's practically like a moving jita local, except you can't put the asshats on ignore and most of the time have to be on comms with them.

    You have to team up with the worst excuses for human beings imaginable and hear them whine, talk, and nerd rage while you sit there and pop weak frigs. I just don't get it.
    Bronya Boga
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #55 - 2012-06-07 02:11:32 UTC
    I would just like to say that before incursion nerf I made 31.5M per HQ site every 30 or so minutes....and I still do so incursions in general are fine all the isk hoarders have been weeded out and only the incursion runners are left. BTL, TDF, TVP they are all still working. (although vanguards have been hit pretty hard I will give you that)

    other then that, QUIT WHINING OR GTFO
    Bronya Boga
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #56 - 2012-06-07 02:12:54 UTC
    Selinate wrote:
    why the hell do people like highsec incursions? It's practically like a moving jita local, except you can't put the asshats on ignore and most of the time have to be on comms with them.

    You have to team up with the worst excuses for human beings imaginable and hear them whine, talk, and nerd rage while you sit there and pop weak frigs. I just don't get it.



    its cuz you fly with people from local and vanguard runners who wish for the old outrageous income you got from vanguards (which I strongly disapproved)
    Alia Gon'die
    Outer Ring Applied Logistics
    #57 - 2012-06-07 02:16:57 UTC
    The title says:
    Quote:
    CCP chewed off more then Eve & the DEVs could chew... when will they admit it?


    But it really should say:
    Quote:
    CCP bit off more then Eve & the DEVs could chew... when will they admit it?


    This really is a bad thread all around.

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    Qvar Dar'Zanar
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #58 - 2012-06-07 02:22:25 UTC
    Yeah I see the worl coming to an end because you don't have meta 0 modules anymore, nor eve voice yadda yadda.
    ReptilesBlade
    Science and Trade Institute
    Caldari State
    #59 - 2012-06-07 02:37:08 UTC
    DeBingJos wrote:
    DarthNefarius wrote:
    -IMHO give peeps the option to turn off the Unified Inventory like last year where the ship spinning was brought back.
    -Unnerf the Incursions.
    -Fix EVE voice because Escalation/Inferno really caused it to bomb!
    -Bring back meta 0 loot ( this shoulda been phased in 1-2 months after the drone nerf not at the same mother @#$ing time dumb arse DEVs!!! What you think everyone will buy PLEX to keep up or was that marketings idea over Dr E's objections of sinks over nerfs CCP Soundwave? )

    With DUST bunnies being the dice roll of the future of CCP & its comming soon CCP better act quick on the above or face the consequences like last year. Job futures should be on the line!


    In the same order:

    • Unified inventory: yes CCP failed. But they are fixing it , stop whining.
    • Incursions needed a nerf, not this much, but CCP confirmed they are reversing some of the nerfs.
    • Eve voice: Don't know, don't use it.
    • Loot changes: All good. use cheaper stuff if you cannot afford the higher prices. Also T0 Meta0 removal is good for industry


    TLDR: Stop whining



    Where did CCP say they were reversing some of the Incursion nerfs? Link please?
    Enzaki
    Kenshin.
    Fraternity.
    #60 - 2012-06-07 05:15:50 UTC
    Unified inventory take it out of the game or give back old system or both this new ui is bad and ccp saying they trying to fix it lol it only got more bugeed : /