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Alpha Qew 6
Hyperr Alpha Qew Likes received: 6	#1 - 2012-06-06 00:45:46 UTC curious for c3s what ship could be viable in soloing c3s?

Air 213
Bibosikus Air Likes received: 213	#2 - 2012-06-06 00:53:34 UTC Legion works well, it's what I use. It easily solos the anomalies, and can solo the top-end FFRD mag site if you tank up a bit and make sure you have around 65% cap stability. Some people solo anoms in a Sac, but for pure isk/hr you can't beat the Legion. *Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.*

Hyperr

Alpha Qew

Likes received: 6

#3 - 2012-06-06 00:55:28 UTC

Bibosikus wrote:

Legion works well, it's what I use. It easily solos the anomalies, and can solo the top-end FFRD mag site if you tank up a bit and make sure you have around 65% cap stability.

Some people solo anoms in a Sac, but for pure isk/hr you can't beat the Legion.

really talking to a corp member today said he cant solo c3s with a legion.

mind posting me a fit i can look at and examine close

Bibosikus

Air

Likes received: 213

#4 - 2012-06-06 01:49:24 UTC | Edited by: Bibosikus

[Legion, C3 farmer Solo anoms]
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corpum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Reflective Membrane
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

Large Capacitor Battery II
Gistum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network

Will run any anomaly in around 12 minutes which is actually faster than a Tengu. I've used this & simliar fits for two years in our C3 static.

For mags & radars, swap to A-Type MAR, drop a heatsink & add another EANM. However, if you're new to C3 then it pays to learn all you can about where Sleeper waves spawn. If you can be close to a BS when it spawns, and get tranversal on it quickly, you will slough off a shedload of incoming dps because the Sleeper BS have very poor tracking.

Another common & cheaper fit is a twin T2 MAR setup with Focused Pulses. But it's dps it pretty gimped.

Primary scrammers, neuters, rr in that order unless they're triggers.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

Hyperr

Alpha Qew

Likes received: 6

#5 - 2012-06-06 02:06:21 UTC

Bibosikus wrote:

god dam does everything have to be faction out like you have it?

Kalli Brixzat

Likes received: 88

#6 - 2012-06-06 02:50:46 UTC

Hyperr wrote:

Bibosikus wrote:

god dam does everything have to be faction out like you have it?

To solo c3's in a Legion? Yes...it does. And even then, if one thing goes wrong, you could lose that Legion in a C3. And if someone shows up in a Manticore...you're dead.

That's the difference between the Legion and Tengu...the Tengu take a bit longer to clear sites, but is nigh invincible in that content. And the Tengu could survive in a knife fight if it came to that.

Hyperr

Alpha Qew

Likes received: 6

#7 - 2012-06-06 18:32:37 UTC

Kalli Brixzat wrote:

Hyperr wrote:

Bibosikus wrote:

god dam does everything have to be faction out like you have it?

dam seems like amor pilots are useless

Hedion University Amarr Empire 20
Vultirnus Hedion University Amarr Empire Likes received: 20	#8 - 2012-06-06 18:39:20 UTC Sololing C3s in a Legion is a piece of cake. Invest the isk in a high end armor repper and you can tank anything you come across. http://voicevvvoid.wordpress.com/


Hyperr Alpha Qew Likes received: 6	#9 - 2012-06-06 21:06:19 UTC the thing is im at the point where i need to be able to manage a plex a month cant fit 15 dollars in my budget as a college student sadly im wondering if a high cost legion is the only way in the amarr department for wormholes.

Doomheim 2,211
Daniel Plain Doomheim Likes received: 2,211	#10 - 2012-06-06 21:30:48 UTC Hyperr wrote: the thing is im at the point where i need to be able to manage a plex a month cant fit 15 dollars in my budget as a college student sadly im wondering if a high cost legion is the only way in the amarr department for wormholes. then drake it is I should buy an Ishtar.

Hyperr

Alpha Qew

Likes received: 6

#11 - 2012-06-06 21:35:31 UTC

Daniel Plain wrote:

Hyperr wrote:

the thing is im at the point where i need to be able to manage a plex a month cant fit 15 dollars in my budget as a college student sadly

im wondering if a high cost legion is the only way in the amarr department for wormholes.

then drake it is

god dam what about c4s c5s and c6s i haerd those are more group oriented what would be needed for those?

University of Caille Gallente Federation 2,402
Derath Ellecon University of Caille Gallente Federation Likes received: 2,402	#12 - 2012-06-06 21:49:37 UTC That legion isn't all that bad. Barely over 1 bil. Which isn't all that expensive for a T3 Unfortunately overall drakes and Tengu's own for wormholes. Question though. Why C3?

Hyperr

Alpha Qew

Likes received: 6

#13 - 2012-06-06 21:52:28 UTC

Derath Ellecon wrote:

That legion isn't all that bad. Barely over 1 bil. Which isn't all that expensive for a T3

Unfortunately overall drakes and Tengu's own for wormholes.

Question though. Why C3?

well c3 is more easier accesible to me most of my alliance runs sites with shield fleets and i only can fly

im just trying to figure out what amarr ship i can fly that can solo c3s seeing how most of my alliance runs in drakes and tengus.

Derath Ellecon

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 2,402

#14 - 2012-06-06 21:57:07 UTC

Hyperr wrote:

Derath Ellecon wrote:

That legion isn't all that bad. Barely over 1 bil. Which isn't all that expensive for a T3

Unfortunately overall drakes and Tengu's own for wormholes.

Question though. Why C3?

In a fleet the legion will rock. I run sites with a buddy in a legion. It complements the tengu/drake nicely.

Hyperr

Alpha Qew

Likes received: 6

#15 - 2012-06-06 21:58:50 UTC

Derath Ellecon wrote:

Hyperr wrote:

Derath Ellecon wrote:

That legion isn't all that bad. Barely over 1 bil. Which isn't all that expensive for a T3

Unfortunately overall drakes and Tengu's own for wormholes.

Question though. Why C3?

In a fleet the legion will rock. I run sites with a buddy in a legion. It complements the tengu/drake nicely.

could you throw your owne fit up that you run with your buds

and what class hole is it a c4? or a c3?

assuming you just rep your self? and hope your not targeted too long?

Derath Ellecon

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 2,402

#16 - 2012-06-06 22:03:42 UTC

Hyperr wrote:

Derath Ellecon wrote:

Hyperr wrote:

Derath Ellecon wrote:

That legion isn't all that bad. Barely over 1 bil. Which isn't all that expensive for a T3

Unfortunately overall drakes and Tengu's own for wormholes.

Question though. Why C3?

In a fleet the legion will rock. I run sites with a buddy in a legion. It complements the tengu/drake nicely.

could you throw your owne fit up that you run with your buds

and what class hole is it a c4? or a c3?

assuming you just rep your self? and hope your not targeted too long?

Not on my computer right now, but I'd say it is a similar fit to above. And yes C3. Haven't tried C4's yet although from my understanding they are where you really want to start using the same tank and RR

Hyperr

Alpha Qew

Likes received: 6

#17 - 2012-06-06 22:20:01 UTC

Derath Ellecon wrote:

Hyperr wrote:

Derath Ellecon wrote:

Hyperr wrote:

Derath Ellecon wrote:

That legion isn't all that bad. Barely over 1 bil. Which isn't all that expensive for a T3

Unfortunately overall drakes and Tengu's own for wormholes.

Question though. Why C3?

In a fleet the legion will rock. I run sites with a buddy in a legion. It complements the tengu/drake nicely.

could you throw your owne fit up that you run with your buds

and what class hole is it a c4? or a c3?

assuming you just rep your self? and hope your not targeted too long?

hmm alright then just trying to figure out what i can do c4s group wise as armor **** sucks being amarr feelsbadman:(

Koda Myr'koff

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 11

#18 - 2012-06-09 10:45:37 UTC

This thread is relevant to my interests.

I've seen the above fit and ones very similar posted before, so I'd say it's good.

Regarding C4 anoms, myself & some corpmates used to run C4 sideholes on occasion in our C3 ships. Some of them we simply skipped, but most could be done if you were careful. Obviously the more pilots there the easier it becomes, but there was still a lot of warping out. Was usually a Tengu or two, either a Legion/Loki I think, and me noobing in it up in a sentry-filled Dominix. Blink

It worked but it was far from ideal, and I know that at least one Tengu was lost.

243636

Science and Trade Institute

Caldari State

Likes received: 12

#19 - 2012-06-09 12:20:26 UTC

[Legion, C3 farmer Solo anoms]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Heat sink II
Heat sink II
Damage control II

Medium Capacitor Battery II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
True Sansha Stasis Web

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Capacito Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network

This is a basic fit that can run C3 noms in about 15 mins.
With skills @5 it has 697 defence
458 dps with faction multi frequency range 11+5km
365 dps with scorch range 34+5km
Speed 640 with the AB on.

Then add a few cheap implants for damage, tank and cap and it just gets better

Most of the C3 waves you will only need to put on 1 repper.
The Wave's with a BS in you will need both reppers on while you take out any nueting or webbing ships. Then you can get into range on the BS and web it while orbiting it and switch off 1 rep.

As with all T3's once you have the isk to faction it up abit you can swap out the heat sinks and bump up the rigs to T2 for more tank. Once you get to know how to fly it you can swap out the cap battery and cap recharger for a cap injector and a point so you have some pvp options or even just a Target painter if you fly with tengus/drakes.

This is by no means the best fit for a legion but it is the poor mans version and it will clear C3 noms easily.
For C3 mags or radars I would wait until you can afford to pimp it a bit.

The best advice I can offer though is to learn the spawn points for each annom and get you ship into position as you kill the previous wave.

Lili Lu

Likes received: 779

#20 - 2012-06-09 12:30:05 UTC | Edited by: Lili Lu

Gotta love this thread. Lol

Here you go CCP, as if you didn't already know, yet more feedback evidence in a non shocker, considering the advantages of shield tanking, system affects, HML and heavy missile range with dps, sleeper coding, etc. - WHs are filled with Drakes and Tengus

But it has already been years of this. Straight

Oh hey, maybe you can design another vast new pve environment that also favors these ships.

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