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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#41 - 2012-06-06 20:52:16 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Mirima Thurander wrote:
nice to see people still using that out dated pod tec i mean,


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there for i can get out of my pod walk to the nearest none immortal bar walk in blow my head off and wake up in a new clone.


and go lolololololololololololol because i just scared thos people for the rest of there lives.


Indeed.

Some people apparently don't understand that game lore is updated all the time, and tech has been introduced to it that would make life outside the pod just as safe for us demi gods and being cooped up in our pods all the time.

Perhaps they didn't get the memo...

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Kalea Hashur
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2012-06-06 20:55:58 UTC
Dust is a first person shooter. A game whose entire genre requires walking around by definition. See how that works?



Oh my GOD! That racing game has CARS!


MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#43 - 2012-06-06 20:56:42 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
ok i get it eve was going to be ftp hence wis but then we all emoed about wis so -----Edit - Removed NDA reference----- ISD Tyrozanpoor us i would have liked to play eve for free...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-06-06 20:58:05 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
MeBiatch wrote:
ok i get it eve was going to be ftp hence wis but then we all -----Edit-----Removed NDA item.-----| ISD Tyrozan-----.. poor us i would have liked to play eve for free...


seeing as dust will come to PC at some point, and both EVE and dust are going to share WiS 100%. You will be able to play eve for free. You will just have to pay to undock into space.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Andre Jean Sarpantis
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-06-06 21:06:55 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:


Here's your problem OP.

People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE.

CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game.

Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is.

At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game.

I want to own space outside of CQ.
I want to run a bar.
I want to run a night club.
I want to run a gambling hall.
I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information.
I want to sell sell drugs.
I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp.
I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face.
I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare.
I want to smuggle things on the station.
I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot.
I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself.
I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships.

I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS.


Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.




Wow......I'm surprised to read this words coming from a Goon Follower i'm bowing my head to you Mister, this is one of the very few impressive posts coming from your ally and Corp i ever read. ( and i mean this wholeheartly without sarcasmn i'm really impressed)

kudos for at least one from the Goons really got a grip what CCP really wants to have out from their game making it the greatest and Completest SciFI Simulation on market ever.

Sincerly

Andre Jean Sarpantis ( Roleplayed nephew from the Serpentis founder )
0ccupy 4-4
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-06-06 21:17:09 UTC
All hope for WiS is gone.

My first character I made over 5 years ago, WiS (ambulation) was talked about non-stop in rookie chat and even help. Soon, they said. I planned all my characters with it in mind. CCP has shown one thing and they don't even try to hide it anymore, they aren't trustworthy and they aren't accountable. If you believe Soundwaffe of Hellmar of all people are going to do something great for EVE you are brain damaged.

It's funny seeing the new players come and go who say "EVE is about Spaceships" well EVE has been talking about ambulation and WiS throughout it's entire exsistance and for over half of that supposed plans were in place to have it. But I guess the joke is on anyone who trusted CCP at one point.
Selinate
#47 - 2012-06-06 21:18:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Selinate
Tippia wrote:
Nah.Nah. Dust has about as much walking as EVE does.

Most of Dust is running around with your hair on fire. Speed-tanking ftw.

The vast majority of Dust's complete features are unknown to pretty much all Eve players right now, so it's a bit too soon to say this...
Acot Voth
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-06-06 21:19:08 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
We have SPACESHIPS. Why in all of New Eden do you want to walk?


Because the simple minded FPS folk will be easy to take money from via gambling and other interactions.
Acot Voth
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-06-06 21:22:22 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Khoda Khan wrote:
DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.


Here's your problem OP.

People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE.

CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game.

Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is.

At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game.

I want to own space outside of CQ.
I want to run a bar.
I want to run a night club.
I want to run a gambling hall.
I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information.
I want to sell sell drugs.
I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp.
I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face.
I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare.
I want to smuggle things on the station.
I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot.
I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself.
I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships.

I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS.


Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.


Almost brings a tear to my eye, well said sir, well said.
Svarek
#50 - 2012-06-06 21:23:43 UTC
That post is good post.

Whoops.
ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#51 - 2012-06-06 21:49:02 UTC
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ISD Tyrozan

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-06-06 22:07:37 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
so you'd be ok with In space combat without a graphical representation of spaceships and space? Because trust me me and my friends can role play a space ship Pen and paper game without playing eve. Eve could be a text based games with just the overview and the solar system map.

Are you really saying video games don't need graphics to be fun? seriously?

ok next time you feel like playing eve just sit in bed, close your eyes, and use your imagination!

If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your space ship in spce with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you.


2/10

1) PVP isn't roleplay (though its possible, but by no means necessary, to do both at once).

2) In case you hadn't noticed, the default setting for PVP is to zoom your camera out as far as it goes to maximise your situational awareness and to turn off the bulk of the graphical effects, so typically the visual experience of Eve is little more than some different coloured brackets clustered on a dark background with an excel spreadsheet overview to provide and filter critical information.

You may have been more successful with that line of argument in any game other than this one.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#53 - 2012-06-06 23:51:32 UTC
ISD Tyrozan wrote:
Several sentences were removed for NDA violations. In the future, please use https://forums.dust514.com/ to discuss Dust.


PSN Home The Event Horizon Lounge is not part of the Dust NDA. Its a public space any can enter.
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#54 - 2012-06-07 00:09:28 UTC
So Dust players get what we should have gotten with Incarna? Figures.
Hermia
HIVE
Memento Moriendo
#55 - 2012-06-07 00:18:31 UTC
Adding another voice to WIS support.

I would have been happier if CCP just used Unreal Engine 4 and get content out quickly, but their perfectionism won the day. Carbon is great technology no doubt but 7 years later ...a room :( and now its on backburner.

When you do go back to it, please buy a book on psychology and realise the talk of "spaceships only please, dolls are for wussies" is elitists playing up to their peers. People want this!

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-06-07 00:23:20 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
So Dust players get what we should have gotten with Incarna? Figures.

YUP, and it's out now, finally. but only if you own a PS3.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#57 - 2012-06-07 00:25:27 UTC
Hermia wrote:
Adding another voice to WIS support.

I would have been happier if CCP just used Unreal Engine 4 and get content out quickly,


Whats sad is they mimicked EvE Avatars really well on the PSN home room. They may not be all flowy with fabric spreading and free moving hair meshes. Yet they looked like EvE avatars.
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#58 - 2012-06-07 00:25:49 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:
So Dust players get what we should have gotten with Incarna? Figures.

YUP, and it's out now, finally. but only if you own a PS3.


Yeah, that's fair, we pay to play EVE and PS3 players play for free and they get WiS. Nice CCP. Evil
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-06-07 00:34:50 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
Ginseng Jita wrote:
So Dust players get what we should have gotten with Incarna? Figures.

YUP, and it's out now, finally. but only if you own a PS3.


Yeah, that's fair, we pay to play EVE and PS3 players play for free and they get WiS. Nice CCP. Evil


WiS stations better be released F2P on PC. But what do i know, maybe if CCP actually laid out the roadmap we wouldn't have to sit around trying to figure out whats going on.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2012-06-07 00:52:07 UTC
Khoda Khan wrote:
DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.


I would bet half my money that you're one of those guys who makes up their own official lore and discard lore made by CCP because "it contradicts previous lore" about which no one has heard about.

Apart from that, the post is so ridicolous I'm not even caring to discuss about it.