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Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
#21 - 2012-06-06 19:49:25 UTC
Erinn Sylvanus wrote:
I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.

I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me.


I'm not that much into WiS, but it would be pretty amazing if in a wardec you dock at a station and have a firefight with the war targets.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#22 - 2012-06-06 19:51:02 UTC
indeed you cant run in station right? i remember ccp saying somethign that running in station is silly

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#23 - 2012-06-06 19:51:42 UTC
What happened to nondisclosure?


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Khoda Khan
Vatlaa Corporation
#24 - 2012-06-06 19:58:37 UTC
Also... I would fully support WiS if we are given a means to do grave bodily harm to other players while on station. And only if death is then permanent. The ability to permanently kill off a character would be brilliant. It would give the true feeling of what it would be like for a pilot to leave his pod.

Of course, no one would then use WiS, except mobs of griefers hanging around the concourse avatar spawn points waiting to beat down every hapless avatar that spawned. (Sounds kind of like the typical gate camp, come to think of it.) Nowhere in EVE should be safe, and dying on a station should be permanent.

That, I could get behind.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-06-06 20:08:15 UTC
Erinn Sylvanus wrote:
I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.

I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me.


THIS

also posting this unrelated to your post. but still cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fDEuMqsS6c

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-06-06 20:10:42 UTC
AFK Hauler wrote:
What happened to nondisclosure?


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it's not part of beta.

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-06-06 20:12:01 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max

That sure sounds an exciting and worthwhile use of the Carbon engine! Sitting quietly in a room with other people!

The idea that you need graphical representations of your character in order to roleplay is hilariously patronising. You realise that roleplayers have been managing in the pre-WiS version of Eve that existed since 2003, right? You realise there are people who roleplay with nothing more than a handful of funny shaped dice and a pencil and paper, right?

If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your character in an empty room with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-06-06 20:17:50 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max



The idea that you need graphical representations of your character in order to roleplay is hilariously patronising. You realise that roleplayers have been managing in the pre-WiS version of Eve that existed since 2003, right? You realise there are people who roleplay with nothing more than a handful of funny shaped dice and a pencil and paper, right?

If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your character in an empty room with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you.



so you'd be ok with In space combat without a graphical representation of spaceships and space? Because trust me me and my friends can role play a space ship Pen and paper game without playing eve. Eve could be a text based games with just the overview and the solar system map.

Are you really saying video games don't need graphics to be fun? seriously?

ok next time you feel like playing eve just sit in bed, close your eyes, and use your imagination!

If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your space ship in spce with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you.

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Khadann
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-06-06 20:18:51 UTC
You can not expect CCP to release a proper WIS before another 2 years.

I mean, they can not put as many dev as they used to on this: Between the layoff and the fear of another hostage situation,hum i mean eve players leaving the game, they 'll think twitce before puting any hard ressources on WIS.

The few dev doing tatoos are just doing this cause the wis is dead for the moment, but it makes us believe that CCP is putting ressources in WIS, which is not the case.

Basically, CCP is putting it aside until some random video game company whish to buy ccp. Then this company will kill WIS and most probably Eve
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-06-06 20:19:15 UTC
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:

Also There are things you need to do outside your pod without having continually logged your doings while beeing in the pod....like as you want to trade sensual goods

I like your ideas!

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-06-06 20:20:47 UTC
But the real question is: How long with the console jockeys have to wait to fly spaceships in dust?

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Khoda Khan
Vatlaa Corporation
#32 - 2012-06-06 20:25:10 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
Are you really saying video games don't need graphics to be fun? seriously?


Some of the very best games have the worst (or no) graphics. There was a time when a game's plot or content actually meant something. Today, appearances are the first and biggest concern of any game studio, and actual content is secondary. There are so many games out there that LOOK great but have the most glaringly poor gameplay.

Step by step guide to making a bestseller.

1) Great graphics.
2) Lots of Hype.
3) Profit.

Zork and MajorMUD (very early multiplayer game) and a ton of other text only games from the mid 80s to early 90s are more interesting that most of the crap that hits the market these days.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-06-06 20:27:10 UTC
Khoda Khan wrote:
DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.


Here's your problem OP.

People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE.

CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game.

Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is.

At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game.

I want to own space outside of CQ.
I want to run a bar.
I want to run a night club.
I want to run a gambling hall.
I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information.
I want to sell sell drugs.
I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp.
I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face.
I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare.
I want to smuggle things on the station.
I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot.
I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself.
I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships.

I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS.


Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#34 - 2012-06-06 20:29:36 UTC
NDA breach.


Just saying....

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Foder Enaka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-06-06 20:32:49 UTC
Are we really still talking about space barbies a year later? If this stuff really means that much to you there is a game called Second Life you can give a try. Dress up your avatar up in fancy costumes and have someone spank you ass when your bad. No one cares about space barbies unless you can shoot people in the stations then it would make war docs cool.
Dalmont Delantee
Gecko Corp
#36 - 2012-06-06 20:34:12 UTC
1) WiS needs a lot of work that we _all_ protested about to stop so they could fix FiS
2) DUST graphics engine and back code is _not_ EVE graphics engine and back code
- One of the reasons we are getting lots of UI updates is not only to fix crap back also to allow easier merging of FiS with WiS (my view not blogged or anything)
3) WiS will take up more Resource we've only just taken back from the other projects, we'll get proper WiS once WoD is closer to completion (again my reading between the lines)

(Don't know the abreviations read some past posts - theres a search function now)

Overall, WiS is a nice to have not an essential, now go mine me some minerals biatch :P
Rakan Stenier-Tian
Gladiators Vanguard
#37 - 2012-06-06 20:34:59 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
NDA breach.


Just saying....




It's not part of the NDA ... it's promoted as part of E3.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-06-06 20:36:52 UTC
Dalmont Delantee wrote:
1) WiS needs a lot of work that we _all_ protested about to stop so they could fix FiS
2) DUST graphics engine and back code is _not_ EVE graphics engine and back code
- One of the reasons we are getting lots of UI updates is not only to fix crap back also to allow easier merging of FiS with WiS (my view not blogged or anything)
3) WiS will take up more Resource we've only just taken back from the other projects, we'll get proper WiS once WoD is closer to completion (again my reading between the lines)

(Don't know the abreviations read some past posts - theres a search function now)

Overall, WiS is a nice to have not an essential, now go mine me some minerals biatch :P


but none of what you said is something CCP said. it's all player rumors.

I'm happy they put off WiS, you don;t understand, I just want to hear CCPs TEN YEAR PLAN

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-06-06 20:42:40 UTC
Foder Enaka wrote:
Are we really still talking about space barbies a year later? If this stuff really means that much to you there is a game called Second Life you can give a try. Dress up your avatar up in fancy costumes and have someone spank you ass when your bad. No one cares about space barbies unless you can shoot people in the stations then it would make war docs cool.


You're so right. When CCP showed a video of what they envisioned of EVE it only had ships in space and not a guy shooting another guy in the back in a station.

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Mirima Thurander
#40 - 2012-06-06 20:46:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
nice to see people still using that out dated pod tec i mean,


dust mercs get a implant in there head that copy's there brain on death, if a dust guy can afford that then pod guys must of had it first.



there for i can get out of my pod walk to the nearest none immortal bar walk in blow my head off and wake up in a new clone.


and go lolololololololololololol because i just scared thos people for the rest of there lives.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.