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Why do Men choose Female Avatars?

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Alayna Le'line
#201 - 2012-06-06 15:07:24 UTC
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
To me it happens right as you create the character. We all know what kind of character we are creating and therefore we all partake in "roleplaying" in some shape or form.

The difference happens when some people create a "character" while other recreate "themselves".

For those who create a "character", gender is of little importance. They will generally go for the gender (if possible) that best suits the character. Gender choice becomes just another "attribute" as other visible parts like hair/size/clothing...

For those who recreate "themselves", gender is probably one of the biggest "requirements". With this mindset, creating a character with the opposite sex generates the issues described in the OP.

Keep in mind, none of the two styles of creating characters should be considered better than the other. Even I, depending on the situation/game/electronic medium, will use one or the other.

It boils down to whether some of us want to play as observers to a story or pretend we are inside the game.

For EVE, I prefer the observer style of gameplay and therefore do not feel gender choice has any effect on how I enjoy the game. Same thing when I watch a movie.


What he says (beat me to it by like 3 minutes Blink)
Svarek
#202 - 2012-06-06 15:10:46 UTC
Svarek wrote:
Hey, hey, hey, let's not get nasty about this.
Obviously everyone has different views on the subject, which is natural and cool and interesting, because we're all human beings. I'd be worried if we were all the same. I didn't see anyone bashing anyone for anything to begin with, so there's no reason to continue being pissy about the way some people approach it.

The straight guy says he feels that gay people are missing out because girls are awesome.
Anything wrong with that? Of course he'd feel that way.

A gay person might feel the exact opposite way about the same straight guy, but since he's gay, it's natural he'd feel that way.

Each person is bound to have a different viewpoint, and each one isn't inherently right. Some things might work for some people and others for others, since we all think and relate to things entirely differently. I hope this isn't big news.

And people all have their reasons for picking avatars.
Some peoples' avatars are simply discrete characters - so gender doesn't matter so much to them, because the avatar isn't a representation of the person at the keyboard, it's a digital fictional character who is an egger. And that's cool.
And for some, it's a digital representation, so they make the avatar look like themselves, or how they'd like to look, and act like they would in real life. That's also cool.

Me personally, I have a male as a main and then a secondary female pirate. She's a distinct character from me and myself, but my main is my "space persona," you might say. (Something like Tricia McMillan becoming Trillian.)
And hey, if your space persona or character or whatever ends up being female, that's awesome, as long as you're okay with it and it works for you. That doesn't mean much of anything about your gender or sexuality or what-the-hell-ever, as there's infinite different ways humans relate to these kinds of things. If you have experience in theatre, you probably know a bit of what I'm talking about.

Mine just happens to be male because I'm a guy and I think it's cool to be a guy (though I think girls are cool too), and I can most easily relate to flying around in a spaceship with my center of bodily mass lower than a female's. And yet I have a distinct female character who also flies around, she just shoots a lot more.


I figure I'll just drop this post in here. Wrote it last night in response to a thread that spun off of this one and got locked because people were being daft (as you can probably extrapolate from a few comments).

Whoops.
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#203 - 2012-06-06 15:13:49 UTC
I have just one question....what is an egger?

So close...
Svarek
#204 - 2012-06-06 15:17:03 UTC
Slang for a pod pilot.

Whoops.
Spy 21
Doomheim
#205 - 2012-06-06 15:20:47 UTC
Svarek wrote:
Svarek wrote:

Good Post.


I figure I'll just drop this post in here. Wrote it last night in response to a thread that was a Rip-off of this one and got locked because people were being daft (as you can probably extrapolate from a few comments).


Fixed that for you.

Also the quoted post was a good one. Thanks.

S

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#206 - 2012-06-06 16:05:25 UTC
whenever I drop by in the Help chat most people think I'm a guy, so I guess everybody just assumes all characters, male or female, are men!

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Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#207 - 2012-06-06 16:08:54 UTC
"The Internet: where men are men, women are men, and children are undercover FBI agents."

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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
#208 - 2012-06-06 16:13:58 UTC
Cutout Man wrote:
I create alts randomly. Random race, gender, and customization options. Except this one. Needed the hood for the name.


Do you also let them have a random name?
Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#209 - 2012-06-06 16:14:46 UTC
I try to make my charachter look like me a bit. Limited by the editor, but it is as close as I could get it

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Xenuria
#210 - 2012-06-06 17:47:09 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
whenever I drop by in the Help chat most people think I'm a guy, so I guess everybody just assumes all characters, male or female, are men!


I know how you feel... Sad
CCP failed to list me as a female when I ran for CSM despite what my Identification Indicated.

Anyway, I choose a female avatar for a number of reasons.


Reason 1: I am "GenderQueer" and as such do not fit in the binary gender system that society has perpetuated. Aesthetically I am far more female in appearance than I am male. So I figured I would go with something that at least looks like me.

Reason 2: Due to the very limited hair options, keeping my gallente female after the new models came out was a logical decision. Gallente males only have 1 hair style that is long and it's freaking dreads.

Reason 3: I often become deeply immersed in EVE, to the point where if my main character is not something I identify with I am unable to enjoy it as much as if it did resemble me.


Once I find some free time (and Money), I plan to buy Maya 2012 and get to work on exporting the entirety of my eve character Xenuria. The end goal being giving her all the things CCP neglected too. I feel that making a few renders of my eve character in the buff (with the additional equipment) will help deepen the emotional bond with it and in turn make the gameplay experience that much richer.

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Ila Gant
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#211 - 2012-06-06 17:54:54 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

Reason 1: I am "GenderQueer" and as such do not fit in the binary gender system that society has perpetuated.

I think "society" can be forgiven for perpetuating a biological generality. Just saying...
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#212 - 2012-06-06 18:10:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
Ila Gant wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

Reason 1: I am "GenderQueer" and as such do not fit in the binary gender system that society has perpetuated.

I think "society" can be forgiven for perpetuating a biological generality. Just saying...



Gender Binary refers to "Girls are girly and like makeup, boys like playing with tanks and toy guns"

Gender in the sense used above has nothing to do with a biological generality, and gender roles as referred to in the post you quoted vary from society to society....just sayin', and if it was a biological generality, then going by a large section of the animal kingdom, it should be the males running round painted and with big hair.

Anyway, as to why guys play female chars or male ones....if it implies anything about "dress-up", then surely no men would ever play games with female protagonists (Tomb Raider anyone?). I think it mostly comes down to "hey, that one looks cooler than that one".

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Jill Xelitras
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#213 - 2012-06-06 18:11:52 UTC
Ila Gant wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

Reason 1: I am "GenderQueer" and as such do not fit in the binary gender system that society has perpetuated.

I think "society" can be forgiven for perpetuating a biological generality. Just saying...


You mean: "What humans assumed to be a generality" ...

You know, like people used to think earth was flat.

Jill.

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Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#214 - 2012-06-06 18:11:53 UTC
I'd rather stare at a chicks ass when I log in, then find myself looking at some dude for the rest of Eve's days...

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Korsiri
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#215 - 2012-06-06 18:21:04 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Because it bothers you… Twisted




…or, more likely, that if you absolutely have to stare at an avatar for hours on end, it's nicer if it's a female one.


This

Except, I choose male for my mains ;) cuz hmm eyecandy! also, seriously, guys need a bigger package in this game. Just like every other damn game out there >:(
Onyx Nyx
The Veldspar Protectorate
#216 - 2012-06-06 18:24:24 UTC
Korsiri wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Because it bothers you… Twisted




…or, more likely, that if you absolutely have to stare at an avatar for hours on end, it's nicer if it's a female one.


This

Except, I choose male for my mains ;) cuz hmm eyecandy! also, seriously, guys need a bigger package in this game. Just like every other damn game out there >:(


A bigger crotch on a male character is eye candy for you? O-okay...

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Xenuria
#217 - 2012-06-06 18:28:08 UTC
Ila Gant wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

Reason 1: I am "GenderQueer" and as such do not fit in the binary gender system that society has perpetuated.

I think "society" can be forgiven for perpetuating a biological generality. Just saying...



What you are thinking of is NOT gender, you are thinking of "sex".

The Sex of something is NOT the same as the Gender of something. Sex is something scientific and gender is really something cultural.

Do keep in mind the animal kingdom could teach us a great deal about "gender" and "sex".

Male Sea Horses for example get pregnant with baby Sea Horses.
Some insects reproduce parasitically and other insects have several different distinct "female' sexes.

I think you get the idea.

I can't help but notice that my reasons for choosing a female character are very different from the majority of people in this thread. I think that I am very extroverted in so far as, rather than be a willing victim of the "Proteus effect" I create a character that already IS me so I do not end up becoming something I am not.

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Overseer Aliena
Lord of Wars
#218 - 2012-06-06 18:35:07 UTC
Onyx Nyx wrote:
Korsiri wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Because it bothers you… Twisted




…or, more likely, that if you absolutely have to stare at an avatar for hours on end, it's nicer if it's a female one.


This

Except, I choose male for my mains ;) cuz hmm eyecandy! also, seriously, guys need a bigger package in this game. Just like every other damn game out there >:(


A bigger crotch on a male character is eye candy for you? O-okay...



What? You never realized that women are attracted to the penis?
Emmy Mnemonic
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#219 - 2012-06-06 18:38:28 UTC
When I made my EVE toon, I had my 9-year daughter beside me (she's 13 now). She played a lot of SIMs so she made this toon's looks and face and also named it "Emmy" after her. I added the "Mnemonic", she is so intelligent and has an extraordinary memory, my daughter! Luckily she didn't get her fathers intelligence ;-)

She also re-made the toon when the new char-editor came some years later. Strangely enough, this toon resembles my daughters best friend, except the look on her face, that I am responsible for ;-)

For me the gender of a toon in a computer game does not really matter, guess I'm mature enough to handle it (45 years soon™). But I do like resting my eyes on a nice-looking female instead of on some hunky guy...but thats just me.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#220 - 2012-06-06 18:39:20 UTC
A break from the monotony. While most of my characters are male, a couple are female because I wanted to do something different.

That and to me, it's just a picture attached to a name. I don't roleplay in any serious sense nor do I spend any time looking at my profile picture other than occasionally changing it in fits of boredom.

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