EVE General Discussion

So, we have this mass protest, and things look like they might get changed at last..

But I have to wonder, is this the right way? I think it could well set the game on a dangerous path, of which may lead to killing it off at worse, or just annoying more people and the least. Let me explain.

When you consider the sizes of eve largest corporations and alliances, could they not hold the rest of eve to ransom, if a change comes through that one or two of those large alliances do not like? If they all do something like the jita protest, will CCP back down again from their plans?

I understand that this time, it may well of done good, but I hope that not only have CCP learnt to listen, but also that they know when NOT to listen.

As a player who been playing many years, I fear for eve online more now than I did before the protests.

well in really life there is protests and counter protests. so if one aliance doesnt like a change then the one that does should have a demonstration in support of the change. then violance would brake out and concord would come and "Take Control of the situation " like the gov did in Lybia.

Then it would very much so be " EVE is Real "

Very true, but I would like if possible to keep this post as far away from Reality as possible as will just end up being a discussion of politics and what not...

Contrary to what some of the monument shooting mongoloids want to believe, the protests accomplished nothing. Neither did the CSM.

Unsubs did.

(although I wouldn't be surprised if some dev claims otherwise in order to get some cheap applause from an obviously easily seduced herd of imbeciles.)

Eh. The protests served the purpose of shining a spotlight on the issue. It gave this whole thing a bigger footprint. So there were more unsubs than would have been without the protests. Actually, that's what protests essentially are: a public display of opinion to raise awareness of an existing issue. By themselves, they do nothing about the issue but they are essential to give action initial momentum.

Of course this will not keep the CSM from claiming all the credits, just like in real life politics.

Agree: Shooting a a monument did nothing.
Agree: Unsubbing made a big difference.
Disagree: The features the current CSM advocated for are all listed in the upcoming expansion. Yes, the CSM were not the only ones advocating for these features, but it is pretty clear that CCP have chosen to take the list presented to them by the CSM and run with it.

The tyranny of the minority. How refreshing. Next week we shall discuss D'Toqueville's "Tyranny of Mediocrity." (That might be more apropos in this venue.)

this ^^

But I'll add that that is only from the unsubbers that actually did unsub.

Not the loud mouths who said they did and kept playing on alts/plex.

The protests were obviously a part of the big picture, but the clincher is that people voted with their feet and showed Hilmar the deeds.

Nobody would be fooled by any smaller group trying to "hold EVE to ransom" - least of all CCP. CCP isn't going to be affected by any sub-set of the playerbase whingeing about what they want, but only by an overwhelming majority (which this recent protest - meaning the unsubs - obviously was representative of).