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Reverend Cletis
Synister Mynisters
#41 - 2012-06-05 14:09:21 UTC
There are OTHER MMO's? Really?
Covert Kitty
SRS Industries
#42 - 2012-06-05 14:57:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Covert Kitty
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It is actually easy to play EVE casually, moreso than most other MMOs, thanks to the skill queue system.

This is not usually fully appreciated. EvE can certainly be played very hardcore, yet, at least once you know how the game works, its much more possible to play casually than really any other mmo.

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Static empires that won't ever be challenged from without - just rot from within to fold... Yeah a lot has changed from a "vast, wild universe".

As a general rule, this has always been true in both Eve and in real life. That's not to say that external forces have no part to play however. I was briefly in IT alliance for the last couple months of their existence, which was a pretty interesting experience. What struck me about the whole thing is that as an alliance IT really didn't like each other very much. SRS isn't very big, but we have about as much regular presence on coms as IT did back then (excluding ops of course). Once the Fountain campaign failed, and Initiative could no longer be defended in Catch, it became clear we would be fighting in Querious and Delve. It may have been possible to defend that space, but the member corps really just didn't like each other, and there was apparently a great deal of strife between the leadership. As a result there was no fighting in Delve, IT just called it quits and split up.

That same general story has played out in the vast majority of other alliance collapses. External pressure bringing internal weaknesses to a head.
BellaDonna Nyghtshade
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-06-05 16:12:43 UTC
Covert Kitty wrote:
Quote:
It is actually easy to play EVE casually, moreso than most other MMOs, thanks to the skill queue system.

This is not usually fully appreciated. EvE can certainly be played very hardcore, yet, at least once you know how the game works, its much more possible to play casually than really any other mmo.

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Static empires that won't ever be challenged from without - just rot from within to fold... Yeah a lot has changed from a "vast, wild universe".

As a general rule, this has always been true in both Eve and in real life. That's not to say that external forces have no part to play however. I was briefly in IT alliance for the last couple months of their existence, which was a pretty interesting experience. What struck me about the whole thing is that as an alliance IT really didn't like each other very much. SRS isn't very big, but we have about as much regular presence on coms as IT did back then (excluding ops of course). Once the Fountain campaign failed, and Initiative could no longer be defended in Catch, it became clear we would be fighting in Querious and Delve. It may have been possible to defend that space, but the member corps really just didn't like each other, and there was apparently a great deal of strife between the leadership. As a result there was no fighting in Delve, IT just called it quits and split up.

That same general story has played out in the vast majority of other alliance collapses. External pressure bringing internal weaknesses to a head.


It was all epeens and egos. Little or no respect for the member corps leaders and definitely none for the rank and file from the alliance so-called leadership.

Pilots were just so many meatshields for the machinery.

After a while it simply gets old.

It's one thing to throw your all into a campaign you can believe in and be shown some small modicum of appreciation. 2am CTAs, entire personal hangars worth of ships thrown against every battle, mandatory hotline monitoring via IRC and a half-dozen other technologies; every bit worthwhile and readily given when the cause is just and the leadership upright.

It's an entirely different matter when all one receives is a never ending curse ridden diatribe of vitriol and thankless expectations coupled with threats for non-performance.

A simple "thanks" or "good job" goes miles. Sadly, all that was heard was derision and insult. No effort was ever "good enough" regardless of the outcome of the battle. It was as if we were being incessantly harangued by Gordon Ramsay's evil twin.

The point is reached when one realizes that this is a game, not a second job one pays to perform, and it is clear and obvious that joy and a sense of accomplishment simply cannot be found a midst the rubble and detritus of demanding oppression.

There is a saying; "Lincoln freed the slaves and the Supreme Court abolished indentured servitude".

Some alliance heads get it. Some do not. One, in particular, did not and likely still doesn't.



CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#44 - 2012-06-05 23:03:10 UTC
Moved from EVE General Discussion.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Mina Hiragi
Perkone
Caldari State
#45 - 2012-06-06 00:19:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Hiragi
EVE's the only MMO I regularly return to. Brief vacations in other games are sometimes nice, but these days, there's not even anything out there worth vacationing to.

I suspect I'll be ignoring ESO entirely; I'm still cringing in terror from the official announcement. I simply don't think the team behind it has the skills to make an MMO worthy of the Elder Scrolls, especially with Matt Firor running the show. (Yes, I'm still bitterbutthurt about his Executive Production of Dark Age of Trials of Everquest Lite.)

Still waiting for a 40K MMO, but that seems to be a mythical creature that will never be seen in our lifetimes.

Am excited for MWO, simply because freebirth scum need to die. Cool

Everything else, unless Fallout 4 or The Elder Scrolls VI: Elsweyr comes out, meh. (Or TES VI: Summerset Isle. I'm pretty sure I'm never going to get tired of decapitating Thalmor.)
Edward Khurelem
Khurelem Research and Development
#46 - 2012-06-06 01:24:24 UTC
I found that when I stopped playing EVE for about 2 months, I went back to WoW for various reasons but I quickly bored of the shallow, structured game play and I just remember wanting to play Eve again because of just how varied it actually is.

I have a feeling that I will be playing this game for a long time at least til guild wars 2 comes out and probably once I bore of that it will be back to eve <3

Nachteule Kohen
#47 - 2012-06-06 03:42:48 UTC
lack of interest in gaming also has to do with age... as you grow older you start to care a lot less about mostly everything.

i played video games since age 4 and now i'm 28... the only game i care about is starcraft 2 (for casual) and eve.

i used to buy a new computer every year... now i'm on a computer that's 4 years old.

i tried to play diablo 3... which was fun until i finished it and went to "nightmare", i had to play the exact same game on a higher difficulty... for what purpose?

eve will last 10-30 years if it can... that's why we're all here. this game just doesn't die.
Domer Pyle
Denassi Mining Company LLC
Sev3rance
#48 - 2012-06-06 05:21:42 UTC
PlanetSide 2. can't wait, even though some of the stuff that i liked from the original isn't gonna be there :(

i'm not a big MMO guy, though, so Bioshock: Infinite looks pretty cool, too. also the new Skyrim DLC.

but other than that, yeah. since gaming has become more mainstream, the games have followed suit. that's capitalism for you, i guess.

"Imagine if the bars to your prison were all you had ever known. Then one day, someone appears and unlocks the door. If they have the power to do this, then are they really the liberator? You never remembered who it was that closed you in." - Ior Labron

Rara Yariza
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2012-06-06 07:17:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Rara Yariza
Another vote for arma II dayz mod. The guy who developed said it was more art than just a computer game, which despite that thought i'd give it a try anyway.

After playing it for a couple weeks i can see where he's coming from. It gets the adrenalin pumping, like EvE, but more than that there are times when it feels like, 'yeah, this is what it would be like if the zombie apocalypse happened' When you're crouch running through the fields, scanning the surroundings for zombies, prone walking so you aren't noticed and if you are do you want to risk firing the shot that could alert the horde? All the time in the back of your mind thinking 'does another player have me in his sights' You are vulnerable and aware of it every time you make a move. When you die you lose everything you have, it's awesome.
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#50 - 2012-06-06 08:33:09 UTC
No other MMO has ever interested me simply because there is no real danger or consequences. Long live the sandbox ! Pirate

Well, WoT was fun but it's not a real MMO but a shooter. Looking forward to mechwarrior online. Always return to Battlefield series like an old friend.

There are still excellent in depth games if you look hard enough, like Crusader Kings II, but the focus on console market and games for the idiotic masses has ruined gaming quality.

Alain Kinsella
#51 - 2012-06-06 17:11:38 UTC
BellaDonna Nyghtshade wrote:
The point is reached when one realizes that this is a game, not a second job one pays to perform, and it is clear and obvious that joy and a sense of accomplishment simply cannot be found a midst the rubble and detritus of demanding oppression.

Some alliance heads get it. Some do not. One, in particular, did not and likely still doesn't.


This is the reason I have not been involved in Null (other than the occasional Agony fleet) for some time. Not that I don't want to, but because of the culture which still predominates there. I come here to relax from work, not be involved in another job (I'll drop all online gaming first, and re-focus my efforts back to FOSS projects - which, ironically, I had started thanks to SL). I love challenges, and PvP (to me) is not challenging as part of a cog in a group; Even PvE is not interesting or a challenge. Industry *is* a challenge to me, at any level or scale (because of its complexity and logistical scope), and has never lost my attention.


Regarding different types of online game, its why I had so much hope for Myst Online / Uru. An MMO which focused purely on RPG elements, no combat at all, and story would be driven by interaction between the players and the Cyan-driven actors. Unfortunately it all broke down under some of the same infighting seen here; Possibly for the worse, because some (like myself) presented their RL selves to the community, and as I liked to say "when your only weapon is words..." *sigh* We lost a lot of good people that way - some dropped from the Internet entirely.

Also, for 'ultimate metagame' Travian still wins. Moreso that they went P2W (the Gold system).

"The Meta Game does not stop at the game. Ever."

Currently Retired / Semi-Casual (pending changes to RL concerns).

Xenuria
#52 - 2012-06-07 17:02:35 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
I hear Elder Scrolls Online is coming out at some point.

Still not internet spaceships though...



Bethesda really **** the bed with that. It looks terrible and is going to crash and burn, costing them loads of cash that they could/should have used to re-make morrowind.
Cadhla Ovsanna
Deadly Intent.
#53 - 2012-06-11 06:27:58 UTC
<----- plays tanks :)
Sarulin Farii
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2012-06-12 01:17:36 UTC
I don't play other MMO's anymore, ive tried swtor/tera etc thro others. Only word i can think of is "Meh". I play dota2 (for the variation). Il prob be trying out planetside 2 aswell, just because of playing the first one..
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-06-12 13:38:03 UTC
Cadhla Ovsanna wrote:
<----- plays tanks :)


snooki?

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Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-06-12 18:02:28 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Summer
the season of brilliant new titles and gaming innovations
If I were the person I was half a year ago , I would sell my car to get to E3 to have my taste of the future
But now .... I'm not sure if its just me , or are other video games getting increasingly dull after I've started playing EVE Online
Ugh

Max Payne ?
meh , seen it , done that
Ghost Recon?
nothing new...
Bioshock Infinite?
what?
Straight


other video game titles just doesn't excite me anymore , compared with EVE online , they are just...... What?
lack luster and repeatitive , the instant gratification just doesn't give me an adrenaline rush anymore
whats the value of accomplishment when you didn't even have to work for it??


I LOVE EVE !!!
its perhaps one of the BEST games I've EVER played
its like French gourmet , but sometimes , you'll just ,miss the old old burger ,sadly , you can't enough put it in your mouth without pulling faces


now , I don't know if thats a good thing or not , but I'm just putting it out there , wondering if anyone feels the same way as I do.

Question


Actually, there are good new games out there, just not made by any big publisher with a large marketing department.

The real trick is to stay away from any established series, since they only give you the same **** all over. Try something new.
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