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CCP Are you aware of this issue or you're just looking at the other direction?
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-06-05 20:50:06 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Yup, I agree with the OP.

If you wanna break the law in high security, pay for a subscription. That pertains to everyone.


DMC


Ok, but first you need to construct a list of all trial players that are alts of paying people

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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-06-05 20:50:37 UTC
Susie Chow wrote:
PvP should be completely disabled for trial accounts so that new players may only mine veldspar and run missions in high security space while being immune to suicide ganks. This will kill two birds with one stone: it will make veteran miners safer while simultaneously attracting large numbers of subscribers from theme park MMOs who would like to experience the excitement of EVE's premier PvE gameplay without the constant threat of other players trying to ruin the entire game.


Why give server resources to MMO theme park kiddies without making any return on them?
Widow Cain
#23 - 2012-06-05 20:54:42 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:
Breaking news


Actually it is not, and he said so, you must be the only one who didn't know about this...

OMG You are sooo pixel macho...
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-06-05 20:59:46 UTC
The average trial account does not have enough time to properly train the skills necessary to take down a properly fit mining ship.

If you are getting suicide ganked by trial accounts then you need to stop **** fitting.

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Covert Kitty
SRS Industries
#25 - 2012-06-05 21:34:37 UTC
This is not new, it is technically against the rules, but there's more important things for CCP to be working on. Technically, they could generate a report of < 1m sp characters by ip address in an effort to find and punish some of them. Really though, you shouldn't care, don't be so bad at the game, it's fundamentally your fault.

We should certainly not add more restrictions on trial accounts, especially not restrictions related to pvp, and emergent gameplay. I recall when I first joined, I shot at someone in highsec to see what would happen, and of course I got blown up by concord. However the fact that I could, that people were not completely safe, was one of several aspect that initially drew me into the game.

Sorry, competence required, risk vs reward, don't advocate nerfing the game just because you suck at it.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#26 - 2012-06-05 21:42:49 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
The average trial account does not have enough time to properly train the skills necessary to take down a properly fit mining ship.

If you are getting suicide ganked by trial accounts then you need to stop **** fitting.
To put this into context, have a look at this semi-reasonable newbie skill plan for the first month of a new character's life. Notice what you get at the different levels — a 14 day trial will just barely be able to fill up his 900k clone, and will lack some critical skills to make a good ganker… and just as he gets all those skills ready, the trial will be over.

At the end of that post, I've linked the EFT character file for a 30-day character — use that to build gank fits to get a far exaggerated idea of what a trial character can deliver, and then use that information to build a fit that can withstand that level of punishment.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#27 - 2012-06-05 22:32:03 UTC
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#28 - 2012-06-05 22:55:19 UTC
If you are getting your ass handed to you by a 30 day old char you are doing EvE wrong.

OP - sh** post brah...

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Trollin
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-06-05 23:01:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Trollin
dafuq you are hauling 500m in a itty V?

the dude that blap you is in a ganknado with 1400mms, not a 21 day trials

srsly pay some ****** hauler to courier that for peanuts and have a 700m collateral and lol all the way to the bank when they get blapped

We are our own worst enemy.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2012-06-05 23:02:05 UTC
they can only be looking the other direction IF they are aware of this issue so it cannot be an "or"

sheesh

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#31 - 2012-06-05 23:09:13 UTC
Check this killboard. Month-old character with 100 kills in 24 days, first gank on 4th day - Retriever in 0.7 and so on.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2012-06-05 23:12:14 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Check this killboard. Month-old character with 100 kills in 24 days, first gank on 4th day - Retriever in 0.7 and so on.

sounds like someone who subscribed to me

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Lipbite
Express Hauler
#33 - 2012-06-05 23:17:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
Weaselior wrote:
sounds like someone who subscribed to me


The guy stated

Quote:
I pulled that off whilst grinding missions to replace losses and buy PLEX for my accounts. You can do better.


So probably his account(s) subscribed. Or maybe not. somehow I believe retriever kill in 0.7 on 4th day doesn't require subscription.
Charles Case
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-06-05 23:24:34 UTC
Adrodius wrote:
CCP you're well aware that trial accounts are being used by it's own community. People in eve, uses trial account to train basic pvp skills and suicide gank industrial ships in high-sec. They don't care about security status with trials. The trial system is being used in ages now.....


The entire eve community knows about this issue, but why doesn't ccp do anything about it?


I just created 2 trial accounts and killed 20 exhumers on each. Thank you CCP.
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-06-05 23:30:50 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Check this killboard. Month-old character with 100 kills in 24 days, first gank on 4th day - Retriever in 0.7 and so on.

Um, anyone over 21 days old, has definately subscribed. What was your point again?

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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