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Why DUST 514 is going to be a failure
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Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#61 - 2012-06-05 19:43:33 UTC
btw, its still 18 months

This could be fun.
Twulf
Purple Void Corporation
LinkNet
#62 - 2012-06-05 19:46:13 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
ps4 will have very few new games when it comes out and not like the ps3 ones won't work it itRoll


PS3 games will not work on PS4
Xbox360 games will not work on the next Xbox system

EA, Sony and Microsoft are trying to kill the used game market as they do not get any money from the used game market and there for it must be stopped. This has been a big story for a few months now. Should get out more.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#63 - 2012-06-05 19:51:48 UTC
Twulf wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
ps4 will have very few new games when it comes out and not like the ps3 ones won't work it itRoll


PS3 games will not work on PS4
Xbox360 games will not work on the next Xbox system

EA, Sony and Microsoft are trying to kill the used game market as they do not get any money from the used game market and there for it must be stopped. This has been a big story for a few months now. Should get out more.



That has not been confirmed, so stop trying to appear clever. CCP and Sony have both already said that IF it is decided that PS3 games will not work on a PS4, then updates will be made to the game in the form of a digital download. The other important point to note is that CCP was in talks with Sony long before development work began on the PS4, so they will have had access to the development kit for the new hardware and will have been able to construct DUST to work on both systems.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Xander Karsoth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-06-05 19:56:10 UTC
Planetside 2, Halo 4 Eta 2012/2013

Good luck Dust 514
Twulf
Purple Void Corporation
LinkNet
#65 - 2012-06-05 19:57:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Twulf
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Twulf wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
ps4 will have very few new games when it comes out and not like the ps3 ones won't work it itRoll


PS3 games will not work on PS4
Xbox360 games will not work on the next Xbox system

EA, Sony and Microsoft are trying to kill the used game market as they do not get any money from the used game market and there for it must be stopped. This has been a big story for a few months now. Should get out more.



That has not been confirmed, so stop trying to appear clever. CCP and Sony have both already said that IF it is decided that PS3 games will not work on a PS4, then updates will be made to the game in the form of a digital download. The other important point to note is that CCP was in talks with Sony long before development work began on the PS4, so they will have had access to the development kit for the new hardware and will have been able to construct DUST to work on both systems.


Did not say they would not release the game for PS4 but it PS3 games wil not work on PS4, that is what they and MS and EA have been talking about for the last few months.

It is not set in stone but lets be real, if MS, Sony and EA see they can make more money then we know what they are going to do.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#66 - 2012-06-05 19:59:36 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
The other important point to note is that CCP was in talks with Sony long before development work began on the PS4, so they will have had access to the development kit for the new hardware and will have been able to construct DUST to work on both systems.
…not to mention that it's based on UnrealEngine, and considering what's powering a huge number of the hit titles on PS3, it's not hard to guess which company will have very early access to the the hardware to start work on something else with a “4’ at the end.

Xander Karsoth wrote:
Planetside 2, Halo 4 Eta 2012/2013

Good luck Dust 514
PS2 — different platform.
Halo 4 — different genre and different platform.

It's still in good shape.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#67 - 2012-06-05 20:00:49 UTC
There are a few reasons why Dust will probably fail. The fact that its a downloadable game that can be easily converted to the next gen console is not one of them.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#68 - 2012-06-05 20:03:25 UTC
Twulf wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Twulf wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
ps4 will have very few new games when it comes out and not like the ps3 ones won't work it itRoll


PS3 games will not work on PS4
Xbox360 games will not work on the next Xbox system

EA, Sony and Microsoft are trying to kill the used game market as they do not get any money from the used game market and there for it must be stopped. This has been a big story for a few months now. Should get out more.



That has not been confirmed, so stop trying to appear clever. CCP and Sony have both already said that IF it is decided that PS3 games will not work on a PS4, then updates will be made to the game in the form of a digital download. The other important point to note is that CCP was in talks with Sony long before development work began on the PS4, so they will have had access to the development kit for the new hardware and will have been able to construct DUST to work on both systems.


Did not say they would not release the game for PS4 but it PS3 games wil not work on PS4, that is what they and MS and EA have been talking about for the last few months.



And as I pointed out, this has still not been decided upon. The ramifications of that course of action would have a massive detrimental effect on all three sectors of the gaming industry; Publishers, Retailers and End Users. It is those three groups that essentially control what the console manufacturers do.

I suspect that despite all the hype and talk, nothing will change from the way things are now, and we will just see more and more games switching to digital downloads only, especially as worldwide average internet speeds continue to rise. The single most important aspect in this industry is the end user. If they are not happy then the whole house of cards collapses, and that is not something Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo or any of the major publishing houses can afford.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Campl3r Athonille
Bluestar Enterprises
The Craftsmen
#69 - 2012-06-05 20:11:05 UTC
yo,PC
Gitanmaxx
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2012-06-05 20:35:19 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
CCP went with Sony because Sony would allow the communication between databases - Eve and Dust. Xbox would not allow this. That was the story when the decision was made.



That sounds like microsuck....too bad because the xbox would have been much better of a choice.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#71 - 2012-06-05 20:37:08 UTC
Twulf wrote:
EA, Sony and Microsoft are trying to kill the used game market as they do not get any money from the used game market and there for it must be stopped.



Witch, if it ever happens, is perfectly normal since those consoles are more like expensive PC's and can do almost to same thing. Someone shot himself in the foot.

brb
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2012-06-05 20:56:46 UTC
I wish I could call you a troll, but doing so would disgrace the name of the recently deceased Eduard Khil

May you rest in peace Mr. Khil.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2012-06-05 21:09:01 UTC
You know how some people are one way on the forums and another way in game? I saw the OP aruging with pvpers in hi the other night. Sadly he's the same in game.

I can has blogging skills!
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#74 - 2012-06-05 21:11:06 UTC
NickyYo is as bad at posting as he is at being a CEO.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#75 - 2012-06-05 21:27:43 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:

That's entry #9, the one you linked, from the Sony website.


Talking of idiots, the site isn't even a Sony site it is a news website blog...

..
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#76 - 2012-06-05 21:38:06 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Talking of idiots
Yes, we noticed you're back.
Quote:
the site isn't even a Sony site it is a news website blog...
Did you happen to notice which news site it was and what the liveblog was reporting on?
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#77 - 2012-06-05 23:26:32 UTC
If he puts as much as thinking in writing posts as he did for his avatar then we shouldn't be surprised i suppose..
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#78 - 2012-06-05 23:36:52 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.

So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right?
My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?

CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?



Wanna bet? I believe CCP has already said months ago it is compatible with upgrading to the next system.
ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#79 - 2012-06-05 23:37:26 UTC
Gitanmaxx wrote:
Ban Bindy wrote:
CCP went with Sony because Sony would allow the communication between databases - Eve and Dust. Xbox would not allow this. That was the story when the decision was made.



That sounds like microsuck....too bad because the xbox would have been much better of a choice.

Actually it wouldn´t.

First because the Microsoft network isn´t free and 2nd because then it REALLY would have to directly compete with the FPS-MMOish new HALO 4.
Selinate
#80 - 2012-06-05 23:46:15 UTC
Gilbaron wrote:
NickyYo, shitposting erryday



FYP.