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Why DUST 514 is going to be a failure

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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#41 - 2012-06-05 18:21:03 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
Man, there has been tons of discussions why Dust won’t come out on either XBOX or PC and yet people still say **** like “I can’t understand why DUST isn’t gonna be on the XBOX, etc, etc, etc”. Try doing some reading…


Mouse and keyboard controls are already supported in the PS 3 version of the title. If the PS 3 version is successful, a PC version might also come out.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#42 - 2012-06-05 18:24:53 UTC
Kaanchana wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.

So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right?
My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?

CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?


man, you need to htfu at least a bit. stop whining like a 13y old on every topic. do you have anything to say that has some sense in it? Ya i get you don't like CCP so either quit or adapt. Stop whining about them ffs. It won't change anything.

I see you've discounted the possibility that he is 13.

He probably is... you're feeding the troll, dude. Roll

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#43 - 2012-06-05 18:31:15 UTC
Gogela wrote:
Kaanchana wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.

So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right?
My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?

CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?


man, you need to htfu at least a bit. stop whining like a 13y old on every topic. do you have anything to say that has some sense in it? Ya i get you don't like CCP so either quit or adapt. Stop whining about them ffs. It won't change anything.

I see you've discounted the possibility that he is 13.

He probably is... you're feeding the troll, dude. Roll


I suppose you are right mate. He certainly has the IQ of one.. Big smile
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#44 - 2012-06-05 18:43:37 UTC
The average 13-year-old has the same IQ as the average 33-year-old.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#45 - 2012-06-05 18:46:16 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Ah the trolls and idiots post in my sensible well structured thread.

Well people and especially Tippia, stop pulling dates out of your ass the PlayStation 4 will be released late 2012 or possible early 2013 that is about 6 months.

Lets just hope the world doesn't end in December 2012..

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NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#46 - 2012-06-05 18:49:50 UTC
And also, to all you whiners, whining about my thread..

You have a choice not to read my threads, its not as if i post in any other threads is it.

You have a choice, stop crying or GTFO.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#47 - 2012-06-05 18:53:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
NickyYo wrote:
Well people, stop pulling dates out of your ass
Yes, you really should stop doing that.

The rest of us can at least source our claims. You, on the other hand, are a clueless git.

It's still 18 months, by the way.
ian papabear
No Regard.
#48 - 2012-06-05 18:54:18 UTC  |  Edited by: ian papabear
its called testing the waters. no offense to ccp but they arent activision or like origin where they can afford to spend millions on a project and have it fail and/or have it released on every console. and im pretty sure that ps4 will be like ps2 and ps3 where can you play previous versions of games on the updated console. If dust 514 succeeds and goes above and beyond their expectations they will branch out to other consoles and market the game to a worldwide audience. Go to college and and get yourself educated on the anatomy of business then maybe you might understand what ccp is doing here.

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NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#49 - 2012-06-05 18:59:51 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Tippia wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Well people, stop pulling dates out of your ass
Yes, you really should stop doing that.

The rest of us can at least source our claims. You, on the other hand, are a clueless git.

It's still 18 months, by the way.


Noob, you pick a blog for your source and you get your date from this quote "and it's rumored to be coming in late 2013."

Your just as bad as the rest of the posters
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2012/04/12/live-blog-new-sony-ceo-kazuo-hirai/#entry_9

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Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-06-05 19:01:18 UTC
While I agree that DUST 514 is pretty much doomed (the way it is planned now), to me this is nothing shocking or even CCP-specific.

Look, every so often - which is to say VERY often - some developer does something stupid. Look at Bioware and SWTOR. In early Summer beta, beta testers have said that the design is flawed at the core and that the game will be dead 3 months past release. Fanboys said "no wai!", and developers agreed. We all know how that release played out, don't we?

EVE has its own history of this nonsense, namely Incarna. CCP was told, repeatedly, that it wouldn't fly the way it was. They didn't listen, and once again we all know what happened last summer.

And this sad litany of poor decisions goes far, far back into the distant past.

Bottom line? Someone in a position of power somewhere suddenly decided that, contrary to all available evidence, doing something like this is a good idea. He is being told that this is a mistake, but he either just doesn't know about it, doesn't care, or believes everyone (including prospective customers of the upcoming product) is wrong. At this point, barring some miracle, the product is already doomed before it even sees the light of day.

Now, I admit that there have been miracle recoveries. Very few, and very far apart, and usually not in MMO genre. But they have happened. And it can happen in DUST. Even just a handful of very talented and passionate developers can turn an otherwise hopeless product into something borderline enjoyable. It just remains to be seen if it'll work this time.

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#51 - 2012-06-05 19:05:27 UTC
what's dust ###?

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.

trite boon
Kingpins
#52 - 2012-06-05 19:11:58 UTC
Posting in a new form of EVE/DUST is dying thread
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#53 - 2012-06-05 19:15:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
NickyYo wrote:
you pick a blog for your source
No. Read it again. Take note of the URL. Also note the page header.

…oh, and it's still 18 months, and it's still far better sourced than your clueless asspull. Idiot.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#54 - 2012-06-05 19:20:17 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Tippia wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
you pick a blog for your source
No. Read it again. Take note of the URL. Also note the page header.

…oh, and it's still 18 months, and it's still far better sourced than your clueless asspull. Idiot.


LOL nice edit with the source..

It still doesn't say 18 months Tippia, that is early 2013 m8.

And direct attacks are not allowed, i got a warning for calling somone an idiot..

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#55 - 2012-06-05 19:23:03 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Nope i still don't see it
Get some glasses then, idiot.

Read what's on top of the page. See the name of the site? How about you use the links already provided? How about you provide the slightest shred of evidence to support your nonsense?

It's still 18 months, by the way.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#56 - 2012-06-05 19:24:47 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Tippia wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Nope i still don't see it
Get some glasses then, idiot.

Read what's on top of the page. See the name of the site? How about you use the links already provided? How about you provide the slightest shred of evidence to support your nonsense?

It's still 18 months, by the way.


Why should i provide links for you to try a pick a apart, i know how you work you are trying your hardest to fish the links out of me, i am aware of this haha.

Try doing a Google search and read the first 2 pages, and not use a tabloid as a source..

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#57 - 2012-06-05 19:27:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
NickyYo wrote:
Why should i provide links for you to try a pick a apart
Because you made the claim. The onus is on you to prove it's not nonsense.

Quote:
Tryinhg doing a Google serach and read the first 2 pages.
Ok. They're all saying that a) there is no PS4 announcement for E3 2012 (so it won't be released in 2012 because then they'd be on the hype train by now), and b) it'll most likely be out of Christmas 2013 (assuming that's not just in Japan, in which case we're talking 2014 for world release and 2015 until it picks up numbers and starts getting a worth-while game library… oh, and 2017–2018 until PS3 starts reaching EOL ).


…and you still have no sources for your nonsense, so it's still 18 months of course.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#58 - 2012-06-05 19:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Tippia wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Why should i provide links for you to try a pick a apart
Because you made the claim. The onus is on you to prove it's not nonsense.

Quote:
Tryinhg doing a Google serach and read the first 2 pages.
Ok. They're all saying that a) there is no PS4 announcement for E3 2012 (so it won't be released in 2012 because then they'd be on the hype train by now), and b) it'll most likely be out of Christmas 2013 (assuming that's not just in Japan, in which case we're talking 2014 for world release and 2015 until it picks up numbers and starts getting a worth-while game library).


…and you still have no sources for your nonsense, so it's still 18 months of course.


But it's not 18 months because you jsut said it might be in 2015, lets face it you don't really know do you?
And i will admit it i don't have a precise day but im 80% sure its out in 6-9 months, hense i didn't post a source.

How about you stop derailing my thread now yes?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#59 - 2012-06-05 19:29:58 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
But it's nto 18 months because you jsut said it might be in 2015
Nope.

Quote:
And i will admit it i don't have a precise day but im 80% sure its out in 6-9 months.
You also have nothing to support your nonsense, so it's still 18 months.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#60 - 2012-06-05 19:30:47 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Tippia wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Nope i still don't see it
Get some glasses then, idiot.

Read what's on top of the page. See the name of the site? How about you use the links already provided? How about you provide the slightest shred of evidence to support your nonsense?

It's still 18 months, by the way.


Why should i provide links for you to try a pick a apart, i know how you work you are trying your hardest to fish the links out of me, i am aware of this haha.

Try doing a Google search and read the first 2 pages, and not use a tabloid as a source..


Since you are clearly an idiot of gigantic proportions, let me spell it out for you.

"Sony says it will target an operating profit margin of 8% in its videogame segment by March 31, 2015. This is interesting since a new game console (PlayStation 4) will probably cause losses, and it's rumored to be coming in late 2013."

That's entry #9, the one you linked, from the Sony website.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.