EVE New Citizens Q&A

edited for drunk-inspired...ness

To expand upon the above, a long time ago, when most ships were first introduced, there was a concept called "tier"... Basically, certain frigates of the same tech level and size would have more base hitpoints, fittings and slots than others, but were correspondingly more expensive. Recently CCP has taken the position that this is stupid and leads to these ships just being useless.

With the Inferno patch, certain below-tier ships like the Incursus were boosted significantly. Eventually -all- tech 1 frigs will be overhauled in this way, so in the near future the breacher will probably become pretty awesome. For now, though, the Rifter is the only really good t1 Minmatar frigate.

Check your wallet. Fly more Rifter.

The Breacher indeed has far better range projection than the Rifter, but it is slower much flimsier (dies more easily under fire) and does less damage overall. As Kahega explained, the tier system was not kind to the Breacher. As CCP commits tiericide and makes all frigates useful, let's hope they do a good job for the Breacher.

Until then, my recommendation remains with the Rifter.

As others have mentioned, typing "(ship name) fitting Eve" into Google will give you more potential fits than your body has room for.


But, generally speaking, here are the major things that PvP fits have that PvE fits do not:

1- Damage Control Unit: in PvE you typically control what part of your tank damage occurs in, so there is no reason to tank anything else but your primary tank (shield or armor). In PvP, though, sometimes you'll just run into things that massively out-gun you, so having extra hull HP is invaluable.

2- Warp Scrambler or Warp Disruptor: Unless you unload so much damage so fast that things die faster than they can align, you need some way to keep them from getting away. Potentially only some parts of your pvp fleet/gang need these, but it's good to be sure.

3- Tanking for buffer: a bit more nebulous than the above, this refers to the practice of tanking just by putting a lot of hitpoints between you and your enemy and relying on your damage output to put them down before they can do the same to you. Rolled tungsten plates, resistance rigs or trimark armor pumps, shield extenders, and so on all show up on PvP ships much more often than PvE ships, which aren't in as much danger of death by massive damage and need active repairs (or enhanced shield regen) to keep up with lower damage over much longer time periods.

4- Signature/speed tank: eschewing the more traditional HP-based tanks and relying on modules that let you maneuver fast enough that enemy turrets can't hit you. Technically _can_ be used in PvE, but typically you'll only see nanofiber internal structures, etc on fast PvP ships, specifically those tasked with tackle as in point (2).

5- Fits that have a lot of extra CPU/PG: In PvE, you very carefully optimize the use of all your resources to eke out the absolute optimal DPS/defense combination for your boat. Many PvP fits are designed for use by an entire corp/alliance, though, and thus they leave a lot more "padding" in the fitting stats so that younger pilots without their skills fully trained can jump into them. Since PvP ships also die a lot, being able to slap a fit together fast form available parts as a replacement can be a bigger concern than optimization as well.

There you go, that should be enough for you to filter the PvP-intended fits on Google from the mission-running and/or faffing-about fits.