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[Notable Wormhole Space Alliances and Corporations]

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Klarion Sythis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#301 - 2012-06-05 00:09:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Klarion Sythis
George Mahyisti wrote:
Right not im sitting at 12million sp (closer to 13) whats the chance of me getting into one of thse big Wh corps to do some pew pew?

That's going to depend partly on what you spent the 13m SP on. If you have the right skills, and clear a background check, you might be fine. I'd recommend doing some research on corps you think you might be interested in. Many of them will state what requirements they have, if their recruitment is even open, and what they're all about. To be honest, the SP sounds quite low to be able to effectively participate in W-Space, so here's hoping that it's well focused.

The biggest thing I can tell you is that initiative is appreciated in wormholes because things to do rarely find you. When they do, it's more about things being done to you. So make sure you put in some effort when researching a potential corp. Too many people make a thread or post that shows everyone involved in the W-Space community that they can't be bothered to read even a single thread before asking people to give them some EVE. Once you know who you'd like to be a part of, you'll probably know if you're ready.
Mumtaz Khan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#302 - 2012-06-05 01:46:13 UTC
Of course it's not possible that all corps will always be able to fight; this is especially true for lower-class wormholes (C4 and lower), where you have smaller, less experienced corporations getting started. However, this kind of behavior is unacceptable in C5/C6 space. Higher-class wormholes are considered to be "end-game" content, and as such are inherently very risky. Corps looking to live in them need to accept this risk.

If you are going to throw a bunch of capitals and T3s into a site to run escalations, you'd better accept the possibility that you may lose them. It is unacceptable that a corp should be allowed to run sites for months on end, but get dropped on once, and self-destruct. It's this selfish and spiteful behavior that produces a lazy, risk-averse community akin to that of incursions.

Even when Team Pizza's first weeks in C5 space, we committed to "good fights." We haven't always been able to field numbers to counter fleets, and we're pretty awful at pvp (Aquila can attest), so it's not a question of experience or ability, it's a question of attitude. We have run into corps who haven't been able to match our fleet comps, so we have actually sent people back to arrange good fights, yet some corps, even with far superior numbers and ships will flat-out refuse fights.

This battle report today pretty much speaks for itself:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13570619

A fair fight you would think: two triage thanatos and spider-tanked navy scorps versus a meager amount of DPS, one bhaalgorn and two guardians. Yet, had the rest of them manned up and stayed on the field instead of wussing out and stranding the rest of their fleet in a bubble, they would have easily melted through our logi.
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#303 - 2012-06-05 02:18:17 UTC
George Mahyisti wrote:
Right not im sitting at 12million sp (closer to 13) whats the chance of me getting into one of thse big Wh corps to do some pew pew?


Depends what kind of person you are, Sell me.

I ♥ the orthrus
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#304 - 2012-06-05 03:04:03 UTC
I tend to disagree with putting a thread up of all the bad wormhole corps. Most of the large WH groups know the bad corps/alliances, and it would just leave a poor taste in everyone's mouth. I say we use the "Your Bane" thread to help people identify the bad groups, and leave this just for letting people who we are and what we do.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#305 - 2012-06-05 03:37:17 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
I tend to disagree with putting a thread up of all the bad wormhole corps. Most of the large WH groups know the bad corps/alliances, and it would just leave a poor taste in everyone's mouth.


Confirming we need more drama in WH space.

Wait, no we don't.

http://www.wormholes.info
Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#306 - 2012-06-05 03:43:39 UTC
Mumtaz Khan wrote:
Of course it's not possible that all corps will always be able to fight; this is especially true for lower-class wormholes (C4 and lower), where you have smaller, less experienced corporations getting started. However, this kind of behavior is unacceptable in C5/C6 space. Higher-class wormholes are considered to be "end-game" content, and as such are inherently very risky. Corps looking to live in them need to accept this risk.

If you are going to throw a bunch of capitals and T3s into a site to run escalations, you'd better accept the possibility that you may lose them. It is unacceptable that a corp should be allowed to run sites for months on end, but get dropped on once, and self-destruct. It's this selfish and spiteful behavior that produces a lazy, risk-averse community akin to that of incursions.

Even when Team Pizza's first weeks in C5 space, we committed to "good fights." We haven't always been able to field numbers to counter fleets, and we're pretty awful at pvp (Aquila can attest), so it's not a question of experience or ability, it's a question of attitude. We have run into corps who haven't been able to match our fleet comps, so we have actually sent people back to arrange good fights, yet some corps, even with far superior numbers and ships will flat-out refuse fights.

This battle report today pretty much speaks for itself:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13570619

A fair fight you would think: two triage thanatos and spider-tanked navy scorps versus a meager amount of DPS, one bhaalgorn and two guardians. Yet, had the rest of them manned up and stayed on the field instead of wussing out and stranding the rest of their fleet in a bubble, they would have easily melted through our logi.


Well said.

Also, confirming that Team Pizza fight even when outnumbered.

We did expect to be fighting more ships that one time, but hard knocks ran pretty fast we couldn't catch up with them.
Cybus Max
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#307 - 2012-06-05 08:27:39 UTC
Meh we find hard knocks fight if you stick a bait legion on a WH :P
Lord Azori
Bob's Bait and Tackle
#308 - 2012-06-05 12:10:01 UTC
We didn't make the list.....sad panda. I guess it's back to blowing up more s***.
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#309 - 2012-06-05 15:22:45 UTC
Senn Denroth wrote:
We did expect to be fighting more ships that one time, but hard knocks ran pretty fast we couldn't catch up with them.


We can move pretty quick when we want to... :D

'Cybus Max" wrote:
Meh we find hard knocks fight if you stick a bait legion on a WH :P


You know i love bait cybus

I ♥ the orthrus
ROSSLINDEN0
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#310 - 2012-06-05 17:55:17 UTC
Mumtaz Khan wrote:
Of course it's not possible that all corps will always be able to fight; this is especially true for lower-class wormholes (C4 and lower), where you have smaller, less experienced corporations getting started. However, this kind of behavior is unacceptable in C5/C6 space. Higher-class wormholes are considered to be "end-game" content, and as such are inherently very risky. Corps looking to live in them need to accept this risk.

If you are going to throw a bunch of capitals and T3s into a site to run escalations, you'd better accept the possibility that you may lose them. It is unacceptable that a corp should be allowed to run sites for months on end, but get dropped on once, and self-destruct. It's this selfish and spiteful behavior that produces a lazy, risk-averse community akin to that of incursions.

Even when Team Pizza's first weeks in C5 space, we committed to "good fights." We haven't always been able to field numbers to counter fleets, and we're pretty awful at pvp (Aquila can attest), so it's not a question of experience or ability, it's a question of attitude. We have run into corps who haven't been able to match our fleet comps, so we have actually sent people back to arrange good fights, yet some corps, even with far superior numbers and ships will flat-out refuse fights.

This battle report today pretty much speaks for itself:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13570619

A fair fight you would think: two triage thanatos and spider-tanked navy scorps versus a meager amount of DPS, one bhaalgorn and two guardians. Yet, had the rest of them manned up and stayed on the field instead of wussing out and stranding the rest of their fleet in a bubble, they would have easily melted through our logi.


If only they where like you guys and fight with honour! nevermind youll get those carrier km's next time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd8TbEwJ4gs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0OXAOfsNtM
StarFleetCommander
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#311 - 2012-06-05 18:34:57 UTC
Cybus Max wrote:
Meh we find hard knocks fight if you stick a bait legion on a WH :P


Freighters work better
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#312 - 2012-06-05 19:07:01 UTC
StarFleetCommander wrote:
Cybus Max wrote:
Meh we find hard knocks fight if you stick a bait legion on a WH :P


Freighters work better


Also a true statement, we are big fans of freighters...especially when they're in places they don't belong... :D

I ♥ the orthrus
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#313 - 2012-06-05 20:57:13 UTC
Ayeson wrote:
StarFleetCommander wrote:
Cybus Max wrote:
Meh we find hard knocks fight if you stick a bait legion on a WH :P


Freighters work better


Also a true statement, we are big fans of freighters...especially when they're in places they don't belong... :D

Like high sec?
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#314 - 2012-06-05 21:59:01 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
Like high sec?

Well I meant like, on C3's.

I ♥ the orthrus
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#315 - 2012-06-05 22:04:26 UTC
Ayeson wrote:
Bernie Nator wrote:
Like high sec?

Well I meant like, on C3's.

They totally belong there.

For target practice, of course.
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#316 - 2012-06-05 22:05:42 UTC
Bingo Bango

I ♥ the orthrus
StarScream26
Fonsatech
#317 - 2012-06-06 14:11:08 UTC
ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:


If only they where like you guys and fight with honour! nevermind youll get those carrier km's next time!




yeah, We will, We just need to bring enough DPS to beat their SD timers next time.
StarFleetCommander
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#318 - 2012-06-10 22:53:30 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
Ayeson wrote:
Bernie Nator wrote:
Like high sec?

Well I meant like, on C3's.

They totally belong there.

For target practice, of course.


Or bait in disguise ;)
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#319 - 2012-06-10 22:55:35 UTC
Freighter Bait. Best Bait.

Also, starfleet, can we roam null again soon? I want to take the ridiculously expensive loki out again

I ♥ the orthrus
Doc Hollidai
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#320 - 2012-06-11 23:59:59 UTC
Ayeson wrote:
Freighter Bait. Best Bait.

Also, starfleet, can we roam null again soon? I want to take the ridiculously expensive loki out again


You must first offer up a tengu to me...