EVE General Discussion

Is this some fail troll? Seems to me all you want is make YOUR traveling easier with no interest on how it will affect the rest of the game.

Length of travel is an extremely relative term. Just asking to make it "shorter" (for free) is as silly as asking CCP to raise bounties on rats for no other reason than you run missions and want more money for less effort.

I'm not asking for that...just the ability to bypass some of the hops....You would still be able to get ganked it just wouldn't take as long to get there LOL

I do want to make traveling easier...that's the point...it could take the same amount of time to...the stop go stop go thing is lame

travel is easy, its called autopilot, you can even use it to dock at your destination station too.

of course you might get ganked midway if you afk travel and your carrying something really expensive .. which probably happens more often than you think, people can be that stupid

but distances and time taken to travel impose a certain amount of 'realism' to the game, instant universal travel would make the whole thing pointless, and would mess up more than a few industrialists in the process, by making their skills worthless, and here i mean the traders etc.

so travel in Eve, i would say, is working as intended, no modification required.
unfortunately given the recent ui changes, thats not exactly much of a commendation that they won't change even that tomorrow..

Jump cloning & jump bridges are both valid ways to travel vast distances. With the new 'Jump' command, travel is two clicks a system if you're in highsec. Suck it up, big boy.

Gate travel is not the only way.

Pod yourself
Jump Clones
Black Ops Bridge
Titan Bridge
Jump Bridge
Capitals
Jump Freighters
Black Ops


Also CCP have already added the 'super highways' through highsec which massively reduced the number of jumps for most high sec trips.

Now, I understand how easy it is to dismiss the OP out of hand and flame him down, but he does sort of have a point. I wish people would think about this stuff seriously, but who am I kidding, this is the forums, they're for flaming and trolling...

On one hand, gate travel is too necessary for the gameplay to work at all to get rid of it or bypass it too much. Space is too big and too empty, (and if it isn't it's not space) unless points of interest exist people will never find each other, and won't interact, so no gatecamps, no combat, no resource geography no nothing. The true gameplay function of gates is indeed chokepoints, which allow to assert a degree of control over much larger space by preventing people from going in or out. People in Eve are already a tad too mobile, if you ask me.

On another hand, Eve is a bit too much of Are We There Yet Online, where it more often than not takes 10-20 jumps to get where you're needed or want to be, (and I'm not talking about jump bridged nullsec areas here) server handovers of numerous people who are only passing through for a few seconds probably take up most of the intranet bandwidth, assembling a fleet of any size tends to involve lots of waiting as everyone crawls to the rally point, shopping is a chore even when there's a market hub nearby, and market hubs tend to balloon the population of a single system well beyond reasonable levels or sometimes, server capacity. Clonejumping of various kinds, bridging and capitals jumping only helps in fairly specific situations, much of it not accessible to the average player.

There has to be some way to satisfy the chokepoint requirement while relieving the are-we-there-yet effects that result from it, and a serious discussion on the subject would be nice.

That would also be a viable solution to the are-we-there-yet problem, if it can be done. Right now, I don't see how, though, maybe you have an idea?

People don't move halfway across the galaxy just because they like the pretty warp effect, it's nice, but gets old after a few months. They move because there's something available at their destination which they need, whether it's cooperation or resources. The obvious direction to solve it is to make them need those resources less, which is likely to make chokepoints less interesting in general and kill too much activity. That doesn't appear desirable. The other obvious direction is making travel harder, slower or more costly, but that is likely to reduce activity even harder.

EVE needs to get bigger not smaller.

CCP should have someone start popping some of the big regional links. Like the Jove, or Sansha or Sleepers.

Hell, they could just make them destructible and let the players do it.

this would actually be not bad. Coupled with a new "deepspace" regions that were discussed in F&I a few months back, and player-creatable stargates (no, not JBs), it could lead to one hell of a fun dynamic.

Obviously empire gates would have to be CONCORD protected ... but that's simple enough to work with.