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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#221 - 2012-06-03 11:51:43 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Saladinae wrote:
Lord Zim

Listen, you overly sensitive little dweeb, just because it uses the word "manifesto", doesn't mean you can interpret it into being a reference to ******. I don't care if you're a jew, that does not give you carte blanche to assume everything is about one of the worst atrocities in history, and it [i wrote:
certainly[/i] does not give you the ******* right to liken it to the ganking of hulks. It's not even remotely similar, and you should feel ashamed for trying to draw the association between them.


Looks like I finally hit you where it hurts.

Not only does his title insinuate it, but the content is about "erasing miners from existence."

Here is reference to the Jews being blamed for economic recession in Germany and how they were "greedy."

Quote:

"Whichever side you're on in this debate--whether you hate the highsec miners or totally support them--I think we can all agree that highsec miners are despicable in both their actions and in their intrinsic nature. A highsec miner is fundamentally going to inspire disgust. What they think, the way they feel about things, their attitudes, beliefs, all of it.

Everyone knows that a highsec miner is motivated by greed. And not just a desire to gain, which could equally be attributed to the conquerors of nullsec, but a particular kind of senseless, materialistic greed."

They're guilty


He cannot deny what James 315 wrote in his thread. If you continue to defend I'll make my own public thread right here in GD explaining as to why his thread should be deleted. Locking his thread was not enough, it's still there for people to read.

Christ. I have no words. It's exactly people like you who make the world a worse place for everyone. I'll bet you somehow manage to make me calling you a whiny, overly sensitive little dipshit into a political statement about jews as well.

Biomass your character and go back to politically correct land, where everything anyone says is a reference to something bad. **** off.



Wow, kind of guy that stirs up **** where it doesn't exist. Needs to get a grip. May Icefluxor (probably got the name wrong) can point him towards his therapist ?


Tal


Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#222 - 2012-06-03 12:00:58 UTC
Some people in here are seriously messed up in the head. Don't ever compare the meaningless bullshit that goes on in a game to a real world atrocity, it only serves to demean those whose lives were lost, and does nothing for your credibility. Some of you lot really need to chill the **** out, take a break from the game perhaps, go outside and take a nice long walk.

It's a game, I think some of you have forgotten that.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Frying Doom
#223 - 2012-06-03 12:26:38 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
Reina Supremus wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
I don't see any hate. .


Read this:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40762


It's a living testament to the failure of forum moderation by CCP. Also look how many LIKES it receives and how many haters support it.


The linked thread certainly violates this rule in the TOS.

Quote:

Rule number 3

You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies .


I made the important part rather easy to see.

Now why is that post still there?


Actually I believe the constant references made by people on something that occurred last century, with most of the people involved on either side now dead, a hate-mongering philosophy against Germany.

Yes atrocities occurred by people no longer here and they should not be forgotten but the constant references to them by people actually influence some peoples outlook on the German Citizens of today. So the century has ticked over and now the innocent are being hated by a different group, few of which were there when the hate started the first time.

We need to move on with our thoughts this in a New Century and a New Millennium.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
#224 - 2012-06-03 12:43:03 UTC
Saddle up, folks. It's definitely gonna be a Long, Drawn Out Death Wail.

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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#225 - 2012-06-03 12:43:13 UTC
Godwin's Law.

Miners have officially lost this thread.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
#226 - 2012-06-03 12:44:59 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:


Wow, kind of guy that stirs up **** where it doesn't exist. Needs to get a grip. May Icefluxor (probably got the name wrong) can point him towards his therapist ?


Tal





Glad to have made such an impression. You really remember the important things in life.

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Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#227 - 2012-06-03 13:38:04 UTC
HVAC Repairman wrote:
the hatred in eve hasn't gone far enough


Where do you want it to get to and why?

I can has blogging skills!
Bossy Lady
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#228 - 2012-06-03 13:41:29 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Pisov viet wrote:
These words are true. There is a limit to how much manpower we have to waste on a single tanked hulk, especially when dozen other are waiting to get slaughtered.


The one thing I don't understand about you and GS is why you don't systematically grind hi sec belts and choke points killing every hauler and mining ship, using as many ships as needed.

You'd make even madder money selling Technetium, and would show everyone where this game is broken (being able and projecting nearly unlimited and organized power into the low level "starting area").

It would be definitely worth the effort, plus the forums would go in permanently down, because of so many people rage posting.



if hi-sec was "the low-level starting area" people like you wouldn't be allowed in it.

Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M.
Mirime Nolwe
Mantra of Pain
#229 - 2012-06-03 13:53:45 UTC
Players from the beginning helped build and develop this game to be what he is today and are exactly the players who will destroy this game.

It is easy to conclude that the game is not developing as it should and we are (large number of players) the cancer that is destroying the game slowly.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#230 - 2012-06-03 13:59:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Saladinae wrote:
Not only does his title insinuate it
…and the question remains: how?

Quote:
Here is reference to the Jews being blamed for economic recession in Germany and how they were "greedy."
…you mean aside from the part where he blame miners for economic recession in EVE. You know, you can call people greedy without exhibiting your particular prejudices and immediately associating it with any particular ethnic group.

Oh, and by the way: even if he borrowed wholesale from Mr. H, it still wouldn't be hate speech or hate-mongering because he's not directing it at any kind of ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, race, sex, or other RL group of humans. He's not advocating advocating Adolph's hate-based philosophy regarding an entire people — he's presenting a virtual perception of a virtual profession in a virtual world.
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#231 - 2012-06-03 14:04:29 UTC
Mirime Nolwe wrote:
Players from the beginning helped build and develop this game to be what he is today and are exactly the players who will destroy this game.

It is easy to conclude that the game is not developing as it should and we are (large number of players) the cancer that is destroying the game slowly.


I'm of this opinion as well. Most of the problems causing rage seem to be coming from the playerbase itself.


All I can say is for now, at least it's limited to the forums so the damage is minimal.

I can has blogging skills!
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#232 - 2012-06-03 14:28:34 UTC
Linna Excel wrote:

All I can say is for now, at least it's limited to the forums so the damage is minimal.

Lets not for get fun Pirate

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#233 - 2012-06-04 15:01:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:

In fact, I could quote word for word the most infamous hate doctrines in recorded history and simply swap whomever they originally referred to with the term "space miner"... and you know what it would be when I was done?

Hilarious, if in admittedly bad taste.


It's odd how some of the names involved in these ideologies are censored on this forum. In theory you should be able to spam them at will.

Anyway, quoting the past monsters is a dangerous game.

RL too is a game of consequences.


There's always, always, always the possibility of an idiot who will read these hideous apologies and, unable to discern between fictional game and RL, he will go buy a gun and kill a dozen RL people.

If this happens, I hope they will track the player behind the hate sources on the forum and put him in jail as accomplice.

So he will learn (no, who am I kidding) to write with more responsibility in the future.


By your logic if I wrote that I think Betty Boop was a bimbo and portrayed women as little more than sexual objects, and some maniac read that and decided it was justification to go out and sexually assault some brunette, I should be held responsible.

You are seriously in need of a reality check.

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Lharanai
Fools of the Blue Oyster
#234 - 2012-06-04 15:11:14 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

By your logic if I wrote that I think Betty Boop was a bimbo and portrayed women as little more than sexual objects, and some manica read that and decided it was justification to go out and sexually assault some brunette, I should be held responsible.

You are seriously in need of a reality check.


That depends Ranger, if you are aware that a maniac will read it and use it as a justification yes you are responsible.

Not saying that you should not have your own opinion :)

Seriously, don't take me serious, I MEAN IT...seriously
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#235 - 2012-06-04 15:45:57 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

RL too is a game of consequences.


There's always, always, always the possibility of an idiot who will read these hideous apologies and, unable to discern between fictional game and RL, he will go buy a gun and kill a dozen RL people.

So all those people who refuse to accept that 'it's just a game' and get upset over their pixels have mental health problems?
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#236 - 2012-06-04 16:00:02 UTC
Lharanai wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:

By your logic if I wrote that I think Betty Boop was a bimbo and portrayed women as little more than sexual objects, and some manica read that and decided it was justification to go out and sexually assault some brunette, I should be held responsible.

You are seriously in need of a reality check.


That depends Ranger, if you are aware that a maniac will read it and use it as a justification yes you are responsible.

Not saying that you should not have your own opinion :)


The huge, huge, HUGE problem with this is that you can't know this unless you know a specific person. By this logic no one should ever say anything because someone might go nuts and kill people.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#237 - 2012-06-04 16:12:28 UTC
Lharanai wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:

By your logic if I wrote that I think Betty Boop was a bimbo and portrayed women as little more than sexual objects, and some manica read that and decided it was justification to go out and sexually assault some brunette, I should be held responsible.

You are seriously in need of a reality check.


That depends Ranger, if you are aware that a maniac will read it and use it as a justification yes you are responsible.

Not saying that you should not have your own opinion :)


Unless you have a governments blessing to craft top secret documents (and not even then really) you have no idea who will everntually read something you wrote.

If your response caused me to snap a twig and lapse into a deep depression followed by homicidal rage, do you seriously think you would be held responsible for writing what you just did...

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Doc Severide
Doomheim
#238 - 2012-06-04 17:18:02 UTC
Reina Supremus wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
I don't see any hate. .


Read this:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40762


It's a living testament to the failure of forum moderation by CCP. Also look how many LIKES it receives and how many haters support it.

Not reading that post. Clearly the guy writing it loves the sound of his own voice...


Melodramatic crap...
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#239 - 2012-06-04 17:20:03 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:

In fact, I could quote word for word the most infamous hate doctrines in recorded history and simply swap whomever they originally referred to with the term "space miner"... and you know what it would be when I was done?

Hilarious, if in admittedly bad taste.


It's odd how some of the names involved in these ideologies are censored on this forum. In theory you should be able to spam them at will.

Anyway, quoting the past monsters is a dangerous game.

RL too is a game of consequences.


There's always, always, always the possibility of an idiot who will read these hideous apologies and, unable to discern between fictional game and RL, he will go buy a gun and kill a dozen RL people.

If this happens, I hope they will track the player behind the hate sources on the forum and put him in jail as accomplice.

So he will learn (no, who am I kidding) to write with more responsibility in the future.


By your logic if I wrote that I think Betty Boop was a bimbo and portrayed women as little more than sexual objects, and some maniac read that and decided it was justification to go out and sexually assault some brunette, I should be held responsible.

You are seriously in need of a reality check.

WTF !!!

Betty is a Bimbo?

Great, just great...
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#240 - 2012-06-04 17:49:45 UTC
Is EGD representative?

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.