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Are Exhumer's a dead ship line ?
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#301 - 2012-06-04 14:10:09 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
If it's not worth it, Then don't do it.

Also there are ways to reduce your max speed.


It's you who want all miners out.

Web in medium power slot does indeed do good for already nonexistent tank.


Don't need a tank if you're aligned.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#302 - 2012-06-04 14:10:49 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
More than enough if you tank it.


14k EHP < 18k-20k damage


Where are you getting 20k damage for a solo gank?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#303 - 2012-06-04 14:10:59 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Now would be interesting to know where you put all that ore (10k+ m3 of it) when Orca can't keep up at that speed.
Setting aside for a second that Orcas have no problem keeping up with the speed, they also have this nifty little bonus that makes it completely redundant to do so.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#304 - 2012-06-04 14:11:07 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Don't need a tank if you're aligned.


You can't warp when you're warp scrambled.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#305 - 2012-06-04 14:11:22 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
So let's say 40km (and you're way off-centre by then). 40km @ 66 m/s = 10 minutes = 3⅓ cycles.


Now would be interesting to know where you put all that ore (10k+ m3 of it) when Orca can't keep up at that speed.


Orca's get Tractor bonuses.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#306 - 2012-06-04 14:11:57 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Don't need a tank if you're aligned.


You can't warp when you're warp scrambled.


You don't get tackled if you're aligned, either.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#307 - 2012-06-04 14:14:38 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
You can't warp when you're warp scrambled.
You can't warp scramble something that is no longer there.

Oh, and by the way:
Quote:
14k EHP < 18k-20k damage
This is still as wrong as always. If you're going to comment on something, comment on it rather than make up something completely different based on a bad acid dream you once had.

The fact remains, in 0.7 and up, a Covetor with a simple suitcase will have 10k EHP, which is more than enough to survive the 7k damage a solo destroyer can deliver.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#308 - 2012-06-04 14:15:06 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Setting aside for a second that Orcas have no problem keeping up with the speed


Just needs max skilled pilot and even then it's barely enough (66,75 m/s).
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#309 - 2012-06-04 14:15:43 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
[Just needs max skilled pilot and even then it's barely enough (66,75 m/s).
In other words, it has no problems keeping up, and it doesn't need to to begin with.
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#310 - 2012-06-04 14:18:22 UTC
Price Check Aisle3 wrote:
Bossy Lady wrote:
No, seriously though: read the ship description.

This right here.


Yes - This game isn't a sandbox or anything - The argument for Hulkageddon has nothing to do with "emergent gameplay (aka sandbox) component, We should only use ships to the narrow definition provided in the show Info...

Primary Test Subject • SmackTalker Elite
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#311 - 2012-06-04 14:19:01 UTC
Tippia wrote:
The fact remains, in 0.7 and up, a Covetor with a simple suitcase will have 10k EHP, which is more than enough to survive the 7k damage a solo destroyer can deliver.


So, Concord respawn time is 10 seconds now. That's 1.0 space btw.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#312 - 2012-06-04 14:20:40 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
So, Concord respawn time is 10 seconds now.
In 0.7, it is.
In 1.0, it's somewhere in the region of 6 seconds.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#313 - 2012-06-04 14:21:21 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
The fact remains, in 0.7 and up, a Covetor with a simple suitcase will have 10k EHP, which is more than enough to survive the 7k damage a solo destroyer can deliver.


So, Concord respawn time is 10 seconds now. That's 1.0 space btw.


1.0 space is 7s. .7 space is 10s.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#314 - 2012-06-04 14:22:22 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Setting aside for a second that Orcas have no problem keeping up with the speed


Just needs max skilled pilot and even then it's barely enough (66,75 m/s).


Tractor Beams. Reload on a Jetcan is 2m, cycle time on strips is 3m. Jetcan each cycle.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#315 - 2012-06-04 14:25:48 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Tractor Beams. Reload on a Jetcan is 2m, cycle time on strips is 3m. Jetcan each cycle.


Stealth buff to can flipping. You criminals always think ways to do something like this.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#316 - 2012-06-04 14:27:42 UTC
I had this weird memory flash of a wild life documentary I once saw where Hul... fish swim in a large group to protect themselves from Sharks. If sharks jump in most of the fish survive because the shark can only get that many fish between their teeth.

If miners would organize themselves, which will probably not happen but whatever, would the above be a valuable tactic?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#317 - 2012-06-04 14:31:02 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Tractor Beams. Reload on a Jetcan is 2m, cycle time on strips is 3m. Jetcan each cycle.


Stealth buff to can flipping. You criminals always think ways to do something like this.


Tractor beams. If something's in range to flip, don't eject.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#318 - 2012-06-04 14:32:27 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
I had this weird memory flash of a wild life documentary I once saw where Hul... fish swim in a large group to protect themselves from Sharks. If sharks jump in most of the fish survive because the shark can only get that many fish between their teeth.

If miners would organize themselves, which will probably not happen but whatever, would the above be a valuable tactic?


For a little while. But then someone'll bring an organized gank fleet.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#319 - 2012-06-04 14:33:37 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
If something's in range to flip, don't eject.


"It's not a threat if you don't see it"
Do you really think they can't use cloaking devices?
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#320 - 2012-06-04 14:37:16 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
For a little while. But then someone'll bring an organized gank fleet.


And there goes again your organized 'defensive fleet'.