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What's the general census. 1v1's
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Az Tek
Overheat.Everything
#1 - 2012-06-04 08:26:54 UTC
I was just curious about something. I'm also aware that it's almost impossible to say anything these days without being trolled. So, what's everyone's views on 1v1's and pilots dishonoring them? I know that you can never take anyone at there word really but I myself honor all 1v1's and all ransoms. Here recently over the last few months to a year maybe I have encountered much more pilots dishonoring 1v1's/ransoms than ever before. I guess this isn't really a big deal. Idk. A few hours ago i had someone ask me for a 1v1, so I accepted. We started fighting and his fleet warped in, killed me. **** happens though. The point is, if there even is one, afterwards they told me that this was a legit EVE tactic. To ask for 1v1's then when ppl come to fight they jump them. that that's how they get most of there kills. They'll ask for 1v1's and be in a frig and other guy be in something expensive. then they jump the expecting pilot and kill him. I've talked to people about 1v1's before and some people think that this is legit, and that there way of fighting is a honorable and skilled way to pvp. That it's just another way to pvp.

Well, I love this game because anything goes. You can join an alliance, work your way to the top, steal everything, and watch it crumble. Or build allies, strengthen your pvp force, and conquer areas of space. Or you can also trade scam people, pirate, and suicide people. So I don't know. I just hope that this is not going to become some new way of PVP. I've just heard of so many corps doing this as a form of PVP.

Any thoughts you all might have would be nice to hear.... Bring on the trolls..

Fight, Fly, Crow... Bangerang
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-06-04 08:31:11 UTC
Honour? In my EVE?

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Lexmana
#3 - 2012-06-04 08:32:19 UTC
I hope they are not honored generally. That would just not be EVE.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#4 - 2012-06-04 08:32:41 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Honour? In my EVE?


EvE? In my Honour?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Az Tek
Overheat.Everything
#5 - 2012-06-04 08:36:24 UTC
Maybe we've been playing on opposite ends on the universe... I remember when almost everyone use to honor 1v1's. lol. Not a huge deal. Losses I don't mind. Don't mind getting scammed either. It happens, don't really mind getting ganked in a 1v1. Just been wondering about how many ppl out there are starting to use it as a way to get kills. Guess no one cares about honor anymore. lol. guess most ppl will laugh at that or will troll me for believing in it. oh well.s :)

Fight, Fly, Crow... Bangerang
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#6 - 2012-06-04 08:39:53 UTC
If you fleet up with your opponent and fight at safe you will get your 1v1. Otherwise assume you are the only 1 in this engagement.

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HaxTis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-06-04 08:40:08 UTC
I actually feel it would be nice to have people 'honor' (although I hate to use the word about a spaceship game) 1v1s, but as far as 'legitimate tactics' go, this is EVE, a harsh and brutal universe where anything goes. Are these guys bastards? yep. Are they legit? also yes.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#8 - 2012-06-04 08:40:37 UTC
Az Tek wrote:


...what's everyone's views on 1v1's and pilots dishonoring them?

I dislike it.

But honor isn't cheap or easy.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-06-04 08:47:58 UTC
too many butthead teenagers out there this time..... And there is killboards... Result is expectable. Enjoy.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Potrondal Morrison
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-06-04 08:50:42 UTC
I have tried 1vs1 in jita a couple of times, both outcomes were identical, i started to get the better of the protagenist and as soon as they get to half armour, a rep ship comes in and heals them up. Both times i was in cheap ships as i had a good idea that this would happen so i really didnt care, but i see no point in trying this anymore in high sec without backup of my own.
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#11 - 2012-06-04 08:51:57 UTC
A Census in EVE:

"Excuse me sir, how many people live in your household?"

"RAWR, eat my autocannons pencil pusher!"





...oh, you mean 'consensus'!
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#12 - 2012-06-04 09:19:24 UTC
There's a reason that one of the more common sayings in EVE is, "any time you find yourself in a fair fight, you've done something wrong."

In Hisec you would have at least been able to flag the opponent's corporation: any more than that one in local, you know it's a "1v1 scam". In low sec, you have local. So you should assume that anyone in local who is not you, is the opponent's team. I really can't believe that someone from Heretic Army would be so easily fooled into a "1v1" fight in non-empty low sec in such an expensive ship.

There is no "honour" in EVE.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#13 - 2012-06-04 09:20:15 UTC
@OP

See, the EvE concept of 1v1 is "elastic".

Basically it's you against another soloer who just takes some precautions:

- 2-4 RR logis
- Falcon
- Off-grid booster
- boosters
...

you know, they find taking precautions is fair.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-06-04 09:38:36 UTC
Let's see… which EVE cliché should I pick?

“If you find yourself in a fair fight, you've done something wrong.”
“If the fight is fair, it's because the reinforcements haven't arrived yet.”
“There are plenty of 1v1:s to be had in EVE — you just have to kill the other 20 guys first.”
Az Tek
Overheat.Everything
#15 - 2012-06-04 09:44:21 UTC
Lol, it's not that i was fooled. I was just tired and not paying close enough attention to my D-scan. I never go into a 1v1 thinking it's legit. Never. That's why I am not complaining about my loss. It happens. Thus, it's also not my loss that I created the thread. Just the idea of honor it self and everyone's views on it. EVE is not fair, not by a long shot. Dah Dah duh duh dah. lol I know this. Again, Just want opinions on Honor. That was my main reason for this thread. I derped and died. My bad. So back to the topic.

Do you guys think that actively seeking 1v1's with the intent to gank them is a legit and skillful way of PVP? It appears that many people do. Is it a form of PVP? sure? but... Just my opinion.

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Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-06-04 09:46:40 UTC
Personally I honor ransoms and 1v1s but I never expect others to do the same. Though I gotta say I remember watching an alliance mate 1v1 a guy in null being cloaked 50k off in a falcon unfortunately he lost but we honored the fight, the entire time we expected his buddies to come in and gank him. Both parties honored the duel, so there is some left just don't expect it

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Implying Implications
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-06-04 09:48:18 UTC
~honoure~

hello
Singoth
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-06-04 09:49:09 UTC
join RvB if you want relatively fair fights. ;)

Less yappin', more zappin'!
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#19 - 2012-06-04 09:50:03 UTC
Az Tek wrote:

Do you guys think that actively seeking 1v1's with the intent to gank them is a legit and skillful way of PVP? It appears that many people do. Is it a form of PVP? sure? but... Just my opinion.


Your opinion is what? That it's a form of PvP? Also, a question is not an opinion.

You're using that phrase "Just My Opinion" in the worlds most annoying way, to escape the conviction that you need to stand by your words. "hey, you can't argue with me... I said it was just my opinion"

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#20 - 2012-06-04 10:07:00 UTC
Duels have been dishonored since the beginning; it's not really a "new way of PVP" that's recently popped up. However, that doesn't mean you can't find people who will honor them. For example, I honor all 1vs1 challenges, whenever I issue or accept them. Of course I will first research the other guy's history, and will be prepared in case he dishonors his end of the bargain. Also, the wording has to be very specific. "Testing the tank" is not a 1vs1 agreement, and neither is not saying anything when you're asked for a duel. If there's a significant ship class disparity, or if one side flies something expensive, something's probably up.

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